Just a thought I had, about the japanese girls and the contraceptive pill
24 October 2008The thought has suddently struck me, that many many times, in hentai mangas, you’ll see a girl afraid of having a baby because she was creampied. I’m not asking why girls in most hentai mangas ask their partners to pull out, even if it feels so good for a man, it means more complications for the woman, can understand that - nah, I’m thinking about the fear to have a baby.
Could it be more so complicated, in Japan, to manage to get the contraceptive pill ?
Honestly, I have no idea about how it works in Japan. I know that in my country, any teenage girl can ask a doctor and she’ll manage to get her pill, in schools there are even “day +1″ special pills for a girl who had an unprotected relation during the days she can be fecundated (don’t ask me their real name) that are given for free without asking explanations to any girl asking one…
But maybe, in Japan, that is different ?
If you’ve got the info, I’m interested in knowing, thanks to share it in a comment
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on October 24th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
I havent got any facts but i heard that there is a law in japan about the number of children you are allowed to have. This could be because of japans huge population count & could also explain why the girls in nearly every manga are scared of getting pregnant.
on October 24th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I think they all say that in hentai cause its more exciting? Feel like its even more a rape and whatnot
on October 24th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Its china that has the huge pop, Japan actually has too few births right now hence a law that states you can only have birth control if you are in special circumstances like the sex industry or its bad for your health to have a baby. So in other words its actually very hard to get the pill in japan
on October 24th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Japan actually has a problem with low birth rates for the past 20 or so years. So women can only get birth control if they are special needs.
on October 24th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
The above people are all wrong. It is not at all hard to get contraceptives in Japan. However, because of concerns of STDs, condoms are by far the most common method. Only about 1% use the pill.
See
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/20/health/main637523.shtml
and also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pill
if you want to know more.
on October 24th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
You also see hardly any condoms over there in hentai so its not really about the contraception. It has to do more with the culture over there with girls being demure and not liking people to look at their vagina and what not.
Usually these are stereotypes that the hentai use to sell them kind of like girls all wanting sex but being ashamed. Its just the way men over there like it.
on October 25th, 2008 at 12:26 am
I do remember reading somewhere that many girls in Japan were ‘afraid’ of the pill. I think the quote was something along the lines of “You may as well ask them to drink poison if you want them to take the pill.”
on October 25th, 2008 at 12:32 am
hmm.. interesting
I think, it’s not that hard to get pills in japan? maybe I’m wrong
but I think, condom is more common than pills
on October 25th, 2008 at 1:56 am
I don’t know in japan but here in Argentina they give the “day+1″ pill (here its called something as the after day pill I think) only to girls who were raped, but even in this circumstances religious people who were not raped come screaming and making a huge problem for this, maybe in Japan happens something similar.
Anyways I always use condoms with girls I don’t really know well, and for my girlfriend she takes some pill everyday.
on October 25th, 2008 at 2:05 am
Like Darkaxey said, isn’t Japan’s problem that their population growth is too low? If that is the case, I would expect that they would limit birth control, in order to stimulate population growth.
on October 25th, 2008 at 2:05 am
i heard that you need a perscription for pills in japan
so maybe they just don’t want people to find out that they are active
on October 25th, 2008 at 2:23 am
well basically, from an asian prospective,
1) girls are ashamed to get the contraceptive pill) (in most asian cultures condoms are much more accepted for some reason)
2) the pills needs to be taken on a regular basis to work so too fussy for most
3) some city myths says the pills might have side effects like making its user gain weight (in the face of keep fit cultures these days)
4) lowering birth rate in Japan means birth control is simply not true
5) day+1 might not work
6) the side effect of day+1 is larger than the contraceptive pill
on October 25th, 2008 at 2:39 am
I don’t think the problem is having with the culture much at all. People tend to express what they are prohibited to do in real life (incest, rape,…). Getting a baby can just be in one of those categories.
Or maybe having a girl fear that she will get a baby makes the story seems hotter. Since have a baby in real life would mess up a girl’s life, especially in Asia, where the culture and traditions are stricter than in the West. Having a girl getting a baby in hentai is fine since it doesn’t hurt anyone anway.
on October 25th, 2008 at 3:04 am
I don’t know much about Japan, but I do know that contraceptive pills mess with a woman’s hormones manipulating them so that the woman can not produce them. After too much use, the woman would probably become infertile and there might be damage to the brain, period, and menstrual cycle after the production eggs is cut for so long. Many women are afraid to take the pill because they do not immediately work and one would need to take them beforehand, meaning that a woman would have to take them as a daily regimen, considering the fact that much sex is not scheduled and the human body’s need are unpredictable. Ta-da!
on October 25th, 2008 at 7:04 am
Actually, my girlfriend spend almost 1 year in Japan for her translating studies and has meet a lot of young adult girls and talk over this situation with them.
In fact, there are a lot of false rumors about the pills and its side effet: weight is one of them but there are others like the fact girls think they will become hairy women or they will loose their abilities of having babies for the furture. My girlsfriend was amazed to see how much they have a wrong perception of the pills. This false side effect are most of the time cautionned by doctors. But I don’t know the reason of these lies. Indeed Japan has a big problem with their natality rate. I have go to Japan 6 months ago and they ware talking about this problem at TV saying that 30 years ago for 1 old man, there was 15 working people to support his cost for society, now it’s only 2 for 1. Maybe doctors thinks it’s a good way too avoid lowering more the birth rate. But in the same time, Japan is one of the country in the world with the bigger abortion rate.
on October 25th, 2008 at 9:53 am
you know, i hardly ever see any american porn with creampies. cumshots on the face are much more commom; does this have anything to do with contraception in the us of a? i think not.
even if it is a fact that japanese girls mainly use condoms instead of the pill because they are misinformed, we shouldn’t forget that the use of the pill causes trouble for a fairly big part of the users.
and lets say we men could “simply” take a pill that effectively makes us infertile and therefor enjoy our orgasms inside girls as much es we like. shit, as long as there isn’t a study that shows that even after 50 years of daily usage there is no chance at all of your dick suddenly falling off, i wouldn’t use that shit over a prolonged period of time.
on October 25th, 2008 at 10:10 am
I live in Japan and I can tell that with the exception of one guy above who provided solid statistics, most of the conjectures mentioned here is crap. There is no governmental conspiracy to force women to give birth. If this was true, abortion would be illegal. Pills require prescription by because it can be used for unrestricted chemical abortion - this would mean less business for abortion clinics. The government tried to deregulate birth control methods couple decades ago but doctors (abortion clinics) lobbied against it. Despite this, pills are easily obtainable if you find the right doctor - not that women want to, because there ARE misconceptions about pills, as another fellow mentioned above.
Women DEMAND that the guys use condoms. Trust me. Condom usage in Japan is close to 100% - this is not undesirable, because condoms are peerless in birth control AND preventing STDs.
Why so many creampies in hentais? because it’s taboo in Japan. Fantasies that break taboos are universal, not only in Japan.
on October 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am
lawl
+1 to nilsot and dom.
Rest of the explanations are a pos
on October 25th, 2008 at 11:39 am
what amaze me in hentai is not only this obsession over internal cumshots;
but also the absolute absence of STD such as AIDS being mentioned.
can’t remember one manga where the girl is afraid of being infected, even after being raped by zillions guys.
as for the pill, i think i saw in a few mangas that you needed your parent’s authorization to get the pill, together with a prescription.. is that right?
on October 25th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Let’s not forget that in Japan, having a baby outside of marriage is VERY badly viewed in their society. So they don’t take contraception lightly, hence their serious use of condoms - which I think is good; best way to protect yourself against STDs. In countries like France, the medical department are still having trouble getting people to use condoms and even today in 2008 a HUGE amount of people still get infected with aids or other STDs.
on October 25th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
No duh! of course STD’s arent mentioned in hentai, i mean what a mood killer! I guess thats also one of the reasons why internal cumshots are so widely seen because its a taboo like Dom said. Hentai is for men fantising about things that they wouldn’t or cant do in real life and whos fantasy involes STD’s??
on October 25th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
don’t ask me..
There’s hentai with lolis with terminal diseases, sex scenes where the guy dies or where the girls are litteraly rip open etc…
but i can’t think of one where std are even mentioned. :/
on October 25th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Prinny does have a point there. It’s true that Hentai does display fantasies, but at the same time you get guro and sick stuff like that… You’d have to be a bit sicko to have fantasies about that kind of H stuff.
on October 26th, 2008 at 3:53 am
@Prinny & Dr Pangloss? Never played Doom, have you? Watched Alien or Starship Troopers? There are plenty of sick stuff out there other than in manga and hentai. We are ALL sick. Some choose to mingle sex and the “sick” stuff. You don’t get to decide that they’re inferior and judge. There are degrees and many different kids of sexual preferences or as you call it, sickness. As long as they remain fantasies and nobody is hurt, they are healthy completely normal aspects of human lives.
on October 26th, 2008 at 5:27 am
Actually it doesn’t matter; pulling out won’t always prevent a pregnancy since there is still sperm in precum which leaks continuously while the guy is aroused.
on October 26th, 2008 at 9:10 am
This is just my personal experience, but I think I have something to say about this subject. I’ve spent some time in Japan, had a couple Japanese gf’s who I got to use the pill. I’ve had sex with several other Japanese girls, have a friend who’s lived in Japan for 4 years, and I’ve discussed these issues with a lot of my female Japanese friends.
There are no laws or regulations preventing Japanese from obtaining hormonal contraception. Forget all the conspiracy theories and speculations, as others have said.
Not just in Japan, but in China as well and probably all of Asia, there is a different cultural view of hormonal birth control. What Nilsot said about this is exactly right. A lot of misinformation and emphasis on weight gain, long-term effects, etc. Doctors are mainly responsible for touting these claims but also there are rumors of friends of friends who tried the pill and got sick or had various problems.
Also, prescription medications are not advertised in Japan, and the pill is given only by prescription. Thus you don’t see hormonal contraception ads in Japan espousing the virtues of enlarged breasts, reduced acne, etc. Instead you get doctors claiming that it increases the risk of cancer, despite conflicting studies on this.
It is worth considering that Western thinking about pills might not be right either. We go on and on about how great it is but some of the Eastern concerns about pills have merit (though not to the extreme). Neither us nor they are truly moderate or objective, is what I am saying.
My personal experience is that ONE person asked me to use a condom and that is mostly because she knew what a slut I was. I have had 3 people explicitly tell me not to use condoms because it feels better for them, and all the others were rather indifferent about the issue. Most girls I and my friend have known or been with routinely do not use condoms and have never gotten pregnant using only the withdrawal method–something we wouldn’t even think is possible in the West. It is basically condoms or nothing in Japan. Sure, condom use is statistically high, but trust me when I tell you that use of absolutely nothing is also high, as are abortion rates. Accurate sexual behavior statistics from Japan are difficult to come by as they are a very private society. Even officially released statistics may not be accurate–Japanese are not above manipulating them in order to save face. But those of us who have spent time there know the behavior of our partners…
I’m ashamed to admit I have used the pull-out method many times with several girls but none of them got pregnant. I still don’t recommend it, but When In Rome…
Japan also has a Nationalized health insurance program. A young girl can go to the doctor and get pills, but it will go on her medical record and her parents may have access to this information. Those who use pills are considered to be extreme sluts who let anybody cum inside them. There’s a bad stigma associated with pill use in addition to all the fallacious rumors.
Pills are a little more pricey in Japan ($50 a pack)– they are dirt-cheap in China ($5 to $10 a pack). Low-dose pills were only recently introduced in Japan and there are still fewer competing brands and pill compositions. Many of the rumors stem from the older high-dose pills which Western society gave up ages ago, but Eastern society has only recently even considered.
I forgot what else I was going to say. Dom has some good points, though I disagree about the condom use part.
on October 26th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Err BTW in the above post when I talk about “people” I am talking only about Japanese girls.
The American ones were ALL on the pill
on October 26th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Apollo’s basically said everything that needs to be said about the issue of the contraceptive pill in Japan, so I’ll just get back to the underlying issue as it relates to hentai manga and the reason it’s never mentioned. Contraception isn’t sexy. That’s all. Even condoms, when they do appear, are usually removed at some point for more impact. “No! I might get pregnant!” or “Whew, glad I’m on the pill.” You decide.
Oliver, something you said made me curious. Which country do you call home? In the states the slang we use for that day+1 deal is the “morning after pill.”
on October 26th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Everybody has missed the obvious point: nearly all hentai authors are men. So it’s not that Japanese women don’t know how to use the pill and prefer the pulling out method, it’s that this is the author’s fantasy that girls love that move.
In my experience, 99.9% of girls think that getting creampied is gross. The other 0.1% are found in internet porn.
on October 26th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
too many opimions. . . cant . . .read. . them. . all. .
on October 27th, 2008 at 1:37 am
the pill is not 100% reliable. Especially the day+1 one (about 1 or 2% fail). With condoms, there’s always the risk to rip it.
the best contraceptive method is still not doing it (but who can here ?)
on October 27th, 2008 at 1:42 am
I think Phoenix was closest when he mentioned about the fantasies side of things. Hentai manga’s are like most things where there is a lot of ’supply’ for the demand, in that there are many comics available - so how do you make sure your H-story sells?
Answer: Appeal to the fetishes and fantasies of your target audience
I’m guessing a lot of the sex depicted in H-stories contains pregnancy fears on the part of the woman/girl involved, in order to create a sense of “sexual potency” on the male’s part, and also explains the huge great wads, internal shots, massive penises, rape content etc etc. This helps make the scenario more stimulating and arousing for the reader, thus making it more likely to secure a sale and possible future purchases.
As an example my buttons really get pushed by great quality artwork, with scenario’s around “Unexpectedly good sexual performance” and “accidental boyfriend/girlfriend stealing or Cheating on your partner” a perfect example of which is Imp by Yamatogawa, that one is still great every time i read it - the scenario is perfect for me
It will be different from person to person as we all have different tastes, but there are common things that are safe bets to include in your story, and sexual potency giving the risk of pregnancy is one i guess.
on October 28th, 2008 at 2:23 am
In Japan, there is little sex education, I’m told, and they have the highest abortion rates of any country in the world.
But, Hentai is a fantasy. When rape is happening, and a girl is afraid of having a baby, ever notice how that turns the rapist on? It’s the idea of control. It’s all about fetishes.
*shrug* That’s my tidbit.
on October 28th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
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