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You may check my twitter account for more info, but here’s the gist : I have unknown computer problems, so there won’t be shares this evening. Sorry :)

Update : more stuff follows. Please, please, o please, if you’re tech-friendly, could you read on, and perhaps give me your advice or opinion ?

Update 2 : lots of testing later, I made progress, I’m asking a more precise question at the bottom of this post…

Update 3 : more to come, again at the bottom of the post…

Could I hope to ask you guys your help ? – And there’s an active discussion in the comments :)

– Question 1 :

– If my problem is a failing hardware… If I install a linux distro (like Mint, or Ubuntu), will Linux be frozen just the same ?

Actually, I would VERY like it to be so, that would be a way to definitely rule out windows drivers or windows software issues.

Or will linux successfully manage to run despite a failling hardware (dang !) ?

– Update 1 :
(please note, part of it is now obsolete or ruled out by other tests, scroll down if needed)

That is actually a “what do you think ?” question ^^

I have several computer freezes on win7 ultimate, can happen after five or 30 minutes, and the occasional BSOD. The BSODs provide various error messages (PFN list corrupt, system service exception 0x0000003b, and another one I forgot to note in time), but the freezes leave no trace to be seen in the windows events logger.

If I run the PC in failsafe mode (with networking, I’m no maso, lol), the computer will easily run full hours without problem, even though I still had, eventually, a BSOD (the PFN – or was it PDN, erm – list corrupt). But BSODs and freezes are definitely much, much rarer.

I can’t find how to reproduce it systematically, it simply happens. It seems to happen faster if I do multimedia stuff (not gaming, viewing or listening) or if I open complex web pages in my browser, but “apparently more from less than 100 tests”, I’m not sure if this is statistically meaningful ;)

I reinstalled the basic drivers, the ones of the video card (nvidia 6800gs pci e) and of the mainboard.
I didn’t find a diag tool for my system disk (crucial C300, but from what I read online these disks either are fully working or fully dead lol).

Memtest, ran from UBCD5.11, found nothing.

What i haven’t done :
– unplug my 3 other sata disk to see if the problem remains
– plug another video card (don’t have one)
– run another OS (don’t have one installed ATM, not sure if installing linux would be meaningful)
– unplug my SSD system disk and 2 of my 3 SATAs, and install a fresh though temporary win7 on that other disk, see if problem is still here.

From here on, please, are there other things to test for that you would recommend ? Thank you very much if you can tell me :)


(and if you wonder, that wall of text was written on wifey’s notebook)

– Update 2 :
(please note, part of it is now obsolete or ruled out by other tests, scroll down if needed)

Lots of testing later (search for my name in the comments, haha), I discovered that the problem seems totally GONE if I run my computer with only the SSD system disk, and the 3 3.5′ SATAs drives (two WD Caviar Green, 1.5 and 2TB, a Samsung hd103uj 1 TB) had their power plug unplugged.

It’s now been 3 hours my PC’s running on its single SSD system disk, and the freezes are gone, apparently.

I exported my config’s state HERE (operation done WITH THE DISKS UNPLUGGED, mind you), if that can be useful.

What do you think I should conclude or do, here, that my tower’s power unit has become unable to cope with the pressure ? Is there a way to know what to do next, honestly, I’m lost :(

– Update 3 :

OK, more tests were done.

With just the SSD, no problems over several hours.
With just the SSD and 1 other drive, the problem still occurs but MUCH less often. But the freezes still DO occur.

There were the freezes problem with two different hard disks (each time, just SSD + HDD, on different plugs).

Inside a tower in which the dust had been blown away, so it shouldn’t be the heat, the fans turn nurmally and the RAM looked fine to memtest.

You may want my machine’s specs, cf HERE. Watch out, it was saved while there were no other plugged in disks than the SSD.

I now remember seeing many problems with Firefox crashing without explanation since yesterday, and one time it was Microsoft Defender (lol), might it be related ?
Here’s a detailed crash report from firefox : here.

A scandisk found no errors on my ssd, but true I didn’t do the thorough search for defective sectors, and I didn’t see the constructor (it’s a crucial c300) provide a diagonostics utility. My SSD runs with the win7 builtin driver, I’m afraid to update this, I remember seeing some reports it would wipe out the contents of the disk, brrr.

Incidentally, nothing on my PC is overclocked.

I’m always open for comments, thank you SO much for those who helped already :)


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Jasta85
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noooooooooooooo!!!!

lol, no prob, I still got a big folder of as of yet unread and unfapped to materials that I have downloaded. Time to get to work on clearing it. Hope your computer gets better

scuba
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it helps us if you esplain ;]

scuba
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nvrm. i saw alot of solid answers on your twitter

Bl0b
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What the hell you're doing to your PC?
It seems that your have every month a problem…

Oliver AKA The Admin
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Yeah, I love it so much, I can't help it, I want more.

princeheir
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

at least i can now study for my finals XD

HurpDurp
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Well, if you think your video card is causing the issue, you could try booting up without it plugged in and see if works.

Sounds more like the HDD is dying though (there must be an epidemic going on! First mine, now yours!?)

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

Man, if I don't plug the video card how will I see if the PC works, lol

HurpDurp
Guest

Does your motherboard not have on-board graphics…? I was unaware such a thing even existed.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

hnnnn… no idea lol, I'll have to check ^^

HurpDurp
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Well, somewhere on the back of your computer you should have plugs for the monitor that aren't attached to the video card. Remove the video card, plug the monitor in one of those other spots and see if it still happens.

If it does, try it with the RAM (removing one, booting up, failing, trying the other stick(s)) then any extra HDDs you have that aren't the one you boot off of. (Then anything else you might have, like a sound card or TV tuners or whatever else.) If you have an additional computer, try putting your bootable drive in that and booting on there to see if it happens.

Are you positive it isn't just a virus tho? Maybe you should get a Kaspersky Rescue Disc and boot into it.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

OK, thanks. But my monitor's got a DVI plug, while the mainboard's only providing a VGA plugging place, too bad.

I only have one RAM stick, it'll be hard to test ^^ But RAM testing didn't give any error with UBCD.

No useless device is hogging the mainboard. Will try with spare HDDs unplugged later yeah.

sorry, short on time on my end

HurpDurp
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They sell adapters. You might wanna buy one, they're only like $4 and you can return it later after you confirm whether or not that's the problem.

Have you considered the problem might be that you don't have ENOUGH RAM to run your programs (thereby causing it to lockup and crash)? For instance, Photoshop (which I know for a fact you use) should have at least 1GB dedicated to it alone (as per Adobe's specification).

Edit: Just saw the update. Are you suse your power supply has enough power to supply to a video card AND 4 HDDs? Might wanna considering upgrading to 1000W. Also, start plugging them in and see if it's a compatibility issue with the HDDs.

Also, get a real antivirus. Spybot is shit tier. I recommend Kaspersky or NOD32.

And if I'm reading this correctly, you have two different RAM sticks? That's not good, you should always have the same exact one in each slot. Also, it's recommended to skip a slot when using only 2 of them. Looks like you have them right next to each other (2 and 3), you should either be using 1 and 3 or 2 and 4.

I still recommend you extend to the maximum of 4GBs (1GB in each slot), using the same exact memory stick in each slot.

Sparda042
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Je pense aussi a un problème de disque dur, ça m'est arrivé ya pas si longtemps et pour allumer ton ordi sans carte graphique, je pense qu'il parle des cartes graphiques intégrées même si pas toutes les cartes mères en ont, bref si t'as une sortie S-video ou vga sortant d'autre part que ta CG vas-y teste ! o/ mais je crois pas que ça vienne de la CG, donne des nouvelles sur ça o/

Fenri
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O_O Wow I had computer issues last week too, got the blue screen of death, thankfully I had everything backed up in my external HDD so no probs with the formatting. Sorry to hear you guys are also having computer problems, here's hoping everything goes well and you can find a solution Oliver, and as has been said take your time we got more than enough "material" to enjoy while you're figuring this out. Best of luck.

foxhound590
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it cud be the video card i dont think the 6800 is meant to be able to run win 7

Oliver AKA The Admin
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Fully compatible, nvidia dixit.

RobertDJ
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I would say that it's either your video card especially if it's a nvidia series 400 – 600 or radeon 6000 – 7000, or your hard drives, you can also try doing a cpu reseat but if it's only been recently that you got these errors then that wouldn't be the problem. I once bumped my computer on the face plate (where the hdd drives are) and it instantly gave a PFN_LIST_CORRUPT bsod, hasn't happened since but then again my computer was pretty edgy since I got it, like it would bsod every 5 minutes after starting up yahoo messenger, dunno why but I switched to digsby messenger and haven't had a bsod since.

Oliver AKA The Admin
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New step : unplugged frigging everything on my mobo, one by one (fortunately it's one by one haha), air sprayed it, plugged it back.
I'll see how it goes…

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

No change, anoter freeze.

-Kei-
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alright, here's my 2cents:

i used to have a similar problem when i newly installed win7
occasional freezes, BSOD randomly when nothing in particular i did would trigger it every hr or so
then it would work fine with safe mode

first thing you do is disable the BIOS option to automatically restart/shutdown when BSOD
second you write down what error caused it it will look like 000×0000"something" or whatever

with that you have something to go with
my particular problem was an antivirus that was "supposedly" compatible with win7
once i uninstalled it everything worked fine, found out about it via googling the error with the symptoms

Oliver AKA The Admin
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fast reply sorry time is running short

– my win7 is one year old, the problem is brand new

– reboot on bsod is already deactivated

tryingtohelp
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That actually kind of sounds like some of the stuff I was encountering recently, and it was a memory issue. Actually had to do with the RAM timings in the bios. After I adjusted them to factory recomendation for the board I did not get any more problems. And before you ask, I'd run Memtest multiple times and they never found a problem. So my best guess, your ram itself is fine, but your bios settings for it is the problem.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

My RAM still runs with the default options in the BIOS.

However, something looks strange, I thought I had 4 GB of ram, and now I notice it seems I have 2 GB only. I could REALLY have been completely wrong for years, I don't care about the amount of RAM as long as my PC works, I have no idea if the ram suddenly shrunk of if it is plainly the norm of my computer.

When I have more time, I'll check my ram carts (no idea of the real word in english, "barrette" in French, haha) and see if it's 2×1 or 2×2 – and then if it's 2×2 then it's time for a "Houston, we've got a problem"

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

OK, it was 2x1GB, haha :)

pretend_p
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Looks like active elements(capacitors) fails on the motherboard. You can try to increase CPU voltage in the BIOS a little. If capacitors the case, that should reduce numbers of the BSODs.

P.S. Sorry for my English, its not my native language.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

That could be tested against by unplugging the power on the non-system hard disks, this option ?

pretend_p
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No, in the BIOS its usually "CPU Vcore voltage" item, also dont try to increase it more than ~10% from default its can be a little dangerous for the CPU.

tryingtohelp
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I didn't see it elsewhere, but what model is your motherboard, what brand is your ram, how much ram, and what are the ram timings in the bios.

tryingtohelp
Guest

As said, my best guess is a ram issue so i definitely recommend going that route first before replacing a video card or other more expensive part. I went between two video cards before I discovered that it had nothing to do with it. My board was using default settings as well, but it seemed manually setting the timings and voltage was what did the trick. Interestingly, my memory issues also appeared about a year after having win7.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

I'm lost, I should change the RAM's voltage or frequency in the bios ?!?

tryingtohelp
Guest

I'd say look up the qualified vendors list for your motherboard. This will either be in the manual that came with it (if you still have it), or can usually be looked up online. That will list all the ram that is guaranteed to work with the board, and at what settings to set for it. In my case it was different then what the computer set as default.
Unfortunately I gotta get some sleep now so it'll be a while till i can add any more help.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

Next step : my three SATA disks power plugs were unplugged. Only the system SSD remains.

Tranider
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If the problem is failing hardware, then the only permanent solution is to replace the failing hardware.

If it’s just one or two pieces of a desktop computer, you’ll need to replace the faulty pieces.

Otherwise, you need a new computer. Good luck.

Matt
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1.- if the problem is failing hardware it will have the same problems with linux, BUT you can still use ubuntu without installing it, but you wont be able to save any data into your hard drive (i think there is a way but im not sure of it)

2.- the error 0x0000003b its mainly caused by corrupt programs/files that start-up with windows, to fix it in safe-mode go to msconfig (start-run…-msconfig-startup) try to deselect all the programs that you are not using, reboot and see if it works. if it don't work then you should try reinstall windows.

hope it helps

(sorry for the bad english :P)

ruse
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is it solved already??
well, here's my amateur experience wth my 7,64b:

a. run win-load(game,video,music)-freeze-restart-no bios-if there's an internal speaker beeping-check ram(replug)
b. same prob with a, check vga
c.same prob with a-restart-windows logon freeze (circular stop rotating)-75%vga prob-restart-safemode-run pefectly for hours-90%vga prob-check vga

d. same prob with a-restart-run hd diag-detected-hd failure
e. same prob with d, but freeze when checking-hd failure, change hd-same prob occur-check mb(age of mb)-abnormal leakin seen(enlargement of tubular component)-mb failure,
f. same like e, no leaking, check cpu (rare if not an oc)

g.run windows, fixed all the things up, load ok, suddenly restart, check cpu temp
h.smell somthin burnin, check psu-overload fan,vga,proc,and hd. especially oc.
well just sharin, good luck sir…

ruse
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well if its a failing device then the only thing you can do is to replace it,
-hd rarely failure, except tremendous shock , in my exp. 40gb ol'seagate fail at year 7, can be fixed, rebuild,refab, but backup is imminent
-vga is most simple thing to breakdown, unstable elec, insuf elec, overtemp,oc replace is the only choice
-mb also rarely breakdown, depend on manufacturer, mean mtbf is 3 y i think, my ol770 could last for 4y withou any sign of failing, and all transistor still normal. replace is the only choice
-psu, wont be a prob if there are stable elec and no oc
-cpu, god know how hard that thing is, oc is the only killer, overheatin rarely occur except you force you cpu above the limit on daily live (passive oc effect)

Korasen
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try to burn test your CPU +GPU (OCCT/prime95, furmark pour the GPU)
delete and replace your drivers with stable versions.
try installing another Windows on a working HDD (is there some new firmware updates for your SSD ? Warning, these will probably erase all the content i the process, so backup before)
What is your PSU ?
try to test each component separately

Greg
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Heating – check for dust in components and that fans can spin freely.
SSD – IDE or AHCI mode? because it's an SSD, you might want to try changing it to the one it's not currently set to.

n1k4r0
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probably a stupid thing but ubuntu can be runned directly from the CD without install anything, why don't you simply try if running with linux it still crashes?

slongo
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May sound stuipid, but have you tried a system restore? It may be possble to roll back to before the problem started and then just run from there

Zawarudio
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First thing i'd do is to clean your computer, dust can be a cause from freezes.
Second, you should try to download HD Tune to test your HDD. If the probs comes from here, you'll have to change it anyway.

If your screen sometimes shpw stranges things (like noise, or strange signs, and black screens) prob might come from your Video hardware.
If you're using SLI or something like that, try to make your comp run with only one video card.

But then, before you do that, i'm asking one question : would you happen to use Ccleaner?
If so, do you use the registry cleaner?

mudwhistle
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i just skimmed throught the comment cause i dont have much time how big is you power supply and how old is it , is it up to the task it could be the cause if its still stock

misako
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I'd guess it was a hardware problem, maybe RAM or the motherboard because of the random nature of the errors. It could be triggered by heat, or a component failure somewhere. Are you able to run a temperature monitoring program on your PC? Some PCs can't check temperatures because they don't have the sensors for it.

You can run something like Ubuntu Linux off a bootable CD or DVD. You should still be able to access the files on your hard disks, but running Linux that way will save you from damaging your Windows installation, and will let you see if Linux crashes in the same way. If it is a hardware problem, then Linux will have errors too if it runs into the problem, but it might be like your Windows safe mode that works for longer periods than normal mode.

xria
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I had a similar problem on this PC recently, eventually getting worse and worse until it was essentially unusable – at first couldn't run new 3D games, then nothing but basic puzzle games would run without freezing, then nothing but a browser and even then some sites would break it.

Tried a few things (mostly already mentioned – reinstalls, patches, etc.) and nothing helped, then opened the case to see if there was anything obvious and found it really dusty. A bit of compressed air in the graphics card blew out a mass of dust and things worked again well, for a while, but it started doing the same thing after a few weeks and nothing helped. Got a new graphics card (much cheaper than the original one, but slightly higher spec) and everything is fine again.

Logan
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I'd make sure the cpu isn't overheating because the fan died so check temps and pop the side of the pc open to make sure its working.

Geno
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had a similar problem 1 or 2 years ago which was as you describe with all disks -> crashes 1 or 2,3 disks pulled from the system it was stable again (only on hot days …) and jeah was my PSUs fault witch got to old/warm for my power hunger

so in conclusion if your PSU is older than 2 years switching it wouldnt be the worst idea to get a stable running system again

Mess
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Est-ce que ton alim est une noname ?
Dans tous les cas, 3 disques durs ne consomment pas grand chose.
Après ce chipset nvidia est plutôt peu résistant (sur la durée) : j’ai déjà eu 2 mobals qui sont mortes après 2 ans d’utilisations basiques :/
Tu devrais voir avec un assembleur pour tester ton pc si tu n’as pas de pièces supplémentaires.

THE_ DUDE
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1. Yes if it is your hardware that is failing, it'll do the same on every other system as well.
2. I had the same problems, I think it was because of a windows update, I saved my data and reinstalled the system after completly formating my hard drive. No more problems.
3. I could imagine that your hard drive is failing so get a new one or turn one of your external hard drives into your internal hard drive. If it works problem solved, if not you are out of luck but u got more info.

wazzaby
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copy pasted from the microsoft tech support:

about the error 0x0000003B:
http://www.faultwire.com/solutions-fatal_error/SY

wazzaby
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on the same microsoft support they put this link I hope it helps

Karnadas
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I recently had weird crashes on my Win7 Ultimate. It turned out to be overheating. After cleaning out my dust filters and repositioning some disks I was running smoothly again.

As the temperatures are rising again this could be your porblem. Unplugging disks and as such reducing the temperature could explain why your computer is working again.

Alexandrine Library
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I have just faced freezing problems with Win7 in a machine of mine (sometimes after 15 minutes, sometimes after 10 hours). After many professionals being unable to find a solution (giving the most different diagnoses), I bought a new machine. Once again, the same shit happened.The technical assistance of the new machine left it on for more than 20 hours, and nothing happened. When returning the machine, the guy speculated:

"As a matter of fact, I was not connected to the internet. Maybe your firewall has a sort of incompatibility with your set of programs, and the results is the freezing."

Bingo! The machine still had the same problem again. After browsing the web with no information, I removed my PC Tools firewall and, voilà, the machine works perfectly now.

Grindel441
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ummm, Thinking maybe you should run malwarebytes, and mem tests like the others have said, my friends and I use Malwarebytes for good anti-malware, also if the harddrives check out OK, then try switching the cables , they might be faulty.

Ryner
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Oliver, your computer problems might be the cause of your ssd, try a firmware update on your ssd or your mobo.

Ryner
Guest

I forgot to add, that BSODs are usually because of hardware problems and the most susceptible hardware are hard drives/ssd, ram, video card and power supply. Or this could be a driver problem if you recently installed a hardware/reinstalled one.

anon
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– Question 3 :

Lots of testing later (search for my name in the comments, haha), I discovered that the problem seems totally GONE if I run my computer with only the SSD system disk, and the 3 3.5′ SATAs drives (two WD Caviar Green, 1.5 and 2TB, a Samsung hd103uj 1 TB) had their power plug unplugged.

It’s now been 3 hours my PC’s running on its single SSD system disk, and the freezes are gone, apparently.

I exported my config’s state HERE (operation done WITH THE DISKS UNPLUGGED, mind you), if that can be useful.

What do you think I should conclude or do, here, that my tower’s power unit has become unable to cope with the pressure ? Is there a way to know what to do next, honestly, I’m lost :(

Alright. Lucky for you, Oliver, you're asking your loyal fanbase, many of whom I would guess are rather technically inclined, for help :)
That said, I have a question:
You said that your drives are SATA, which would mean that they are internal drives, and powered solely by the computer's own Power Supply Unit:
What is the power rating of your PSU? (We use Watts in the U.S., but idk if you use something else in France or not.) You might need to upgrade to a new PSU, but before doing that, I would try plugging in just the SSD and ONE other drive at a time, to see if you can isolate a particular drive which may be causing the problem. If you get no problems while using the SSD and only one other drive, try two drives. If you still have no problems, but once you put the third drive in, you have the same issue again, then it is possible it is simply a power issue.
That said, I can think of a few other possibilities, which can all cause general hardware errors, while giving hardly any information as to what is causing the error(s):
1. Is your CPU overclocked? (If you don't know, then it probably isn't.) (I personally know that this can cause problems, because my PC was having this issue only a few weeks ago.)
2. Are your computer's fans and fan grids all clean, and properly working? (possibility of overheating)
3. Is your CPU/video card cooling working properly? (again, overheating)
4. Do you have ALL of the most recent Win7 updates? (oddly enough, windows OCCASIONALLY has errors -.-) [read 'occasionally' as 'far too frequently for what is supposedly a fully functional operating system')
Anyways, that's my take on it. Keep us informed so we can keep trying to help!

Nightshark
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As-tu (je peux te tutoyer ? Merci) installer un programme ou un nouveau matériel peu de temps avant l'apparition du problème ? Si oui, il y a forte chance que ce soit un problème d'incompatibilité logiciel/drivers.

Mais vu le problème avec les disques je dirais plutôt un disque endommagé. 2 solutions pour tester :
1) comment suggérer au-dessus tu branches un seul disque et tu testes.
2) télécharger sur le site du constructeur du disque le logiciel de diagnostique du disque. Ce là peux prendre pas mal de temps mais au moins tu seras fixé.

Dernière possibilité toujours envisageable avec ce genre de panne pseudo aléatoire : une barrette de RAM avec un secteur corrompu. Le problème ne survient alors que le secteur de mémoire problématique est utilisé. Même démarche que précédemment, il faut que tu télécharges un outils de diagnostic et que tu laisses tourner.

(P.S. si les tests simples ne remontent rien faire ensuite les test avancés / complets)

@gamezMk
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Way too many comments to check if this has been said before, but:

Last time I had that many BSODs, my RAM was failing. After I changed it, everything was back to normal. I can still be a software problem, though with a BSOD that often, I kind of doubt it. I'm not tech-savvy enough to help pinpoint and solve your problem, but I hope my 0,2 cents help you in some way.

Been reading the post above me (anon), and I think those are very good questions. Overclocking can mess up your system in any number of ways. CPU or GPU, either or both of them.

Also, check your Power Unit Supply, that, in my opinion (at least with the experiences I have had so far) is the most often component to fail, and it can cause restarts. Not sure about BSODs, but it definitely causes restarts. And very often.

I do not agree about the Windows updates though. Those rarely fix anything. It can actually fuck up some things. I try to update as rarely as I can.

Considering all of the above, including whatever else users have said around here, the BSOD plague has been around for a very long, LONG time. Not even those at Microsoft know all about it and how they can stop it from ever happening again, and I doubt they ever will. It can just be something freaky happening to you, out of the blue, with no definite reason.

???
Guest

I'm going to say that it's a power supply problem. You're running 4 HDD (1 of them an SSD, how much power do those fuckers take?). If you're getting no BSODs with only one 1 HDD running, it means that the PSU can't handle the other three HDDs all together. I had a problem where I replaced my graphics card, and the wattage of the new card made the compy BSOD frequently.

Based on your specs, you must have a really low PSU, like, say, 250 W. While you could probably suffice with 320 W, you may want to get one with around 400 W, to give yourself some wiggle room in case you add more RAM. The costs of new PSU in that range vary wildly, but tend not to exceed €60, and average about €35.

Danielosan
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Have you tested the others HDD? It's posible that you have an issue in one of the others HDD (bad sectors, for example). Try to test the HDD's one by one (plug one–test–unplug–plug other–test–and so on). Is should take a lot of time, but doing so you can be sure the HDD's are healthy. If there's no issues detected in the HDD's, try to run a live CD of Ubuntu (12.04 is the lastest one) and check if everything goes well (it could be a driver issue).
Sorry for the grammar (first time posting in english).
By the way, HDD's are not high power consuming (I don't remember how much but only a few watts) so…I would left the change of the PSU like last resort.
Hope this help.

Opportunist
Guest

I'd say one or more of your HDDs wants to exit stage left to hardware heaven.

RyuuNoTamashii
Guest

Yup, this is what I think as well. The random freezing is the system trying to access damaged parts of the hard drive and the BSOD comes when it fails to. Check Disk both hard drives to make sure it's not this.

Speaking from experience fixing other people's computers, most people think that their computer has a virus or something or is failing, but usually, it's just a faulty hard drive.

Axel
Guest

2 words : Power Supply
It can give you error letting think it's because a hdd or a video card or your memory.
Take a good power supplie and it will be ok. You can also temporary resolve your problem by disconnecting some hdd.

Nekiito
Guest

Salut,

il me semble bien que ton alim ne suis plus en effet, comme le dit Axel.
Si tu dois débrancher plusieurs disques, il est peu probable qu'ils soient tous en panne, donc le problème viens plutôt d'un point commun la CM ou l'alim.
As-tu essayé d'en rebrancher un seul à la fois ? Quitte à débrancher autre chose ?
Si tu as un Wattmètre tu peux aussi mesurer ce que tire ton alim et voir si c'est proche de sa limite de puissance ( note que l'alim faibli avec l'âge, comme nous :-) )

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin

Cf mon nouveau post, testé avec juste le ssd système, et rebelote :( Par contre, j'ai pas de wattmètre…

Nekiito
Guest

Ouch retour à la case départ donc.
Si je comprend bien, plus ton sytème est en charge, plus vite il plante d'après un de tes commentaires.
Ton pdf ne montre pas température anormalement élevée mais ça dépend aussi du moment ou tu as réalisé cette capture.
Un premier test basique serait de redémarrer le système avec tout branché. Tu rentres dans le bios et tu sélectionnes le panneau de monitoring ( en général il y a un panneau genre Health status ou Tempature Status ). Tu laisses tourner la nuit et tu vois déjà si ça tient jusqu'au matin ainsi que les température de ton système au repos complet.

Axel
Guest

J'avais le même genre de soucis sur un pc acheté en grande surface que j'avais upgradé et plus le temps passait et plus les problèmes revenait souvent. Tout ça dû à l'alim foireuse d'acer qui n'allait pas en s'arrangeant donc je l'ai changé et dès lors plus de plantage, il restait juste des erreurs de secteurs défectueux sur certains de mes disques durs mais après réparation des erreurs sur windows seven j'ai plus jamais eu de problème, j'avais même des erreurs de ram, écran bleu, redémarrage sans raison. Une alim de mauvaise qualité, quelle que soit la puissance qu'elle est sensée fournir, te donne des variations de voltage indésirée ce qui entraine des erreurs à droite à gauche, redémarrage, de la merde dans la ram, de la merde sur les dd, le pire c'est quand le mbr du disque dur est touché, trop chiant.
Un pote vient de se monter plusieurs ordis avec une bonne config mais il a négligé l'alim pour chacun, résultat les ordis qui plante souvent. Il a pris l'alim d'un autre de ses ordis pur alimenter juste la carte graphique et ainsi soulager l'alim principale, résultat plus aucun problème. En fin de compte il a racheter des alims et tout va bien.

De plus même si ça ne consomme pas grand chose normalement, l'ajout d'un disque dur auto-alimenté ou en interne peut vraiment foutre la merde avec une mauvaise alim.

En espérant que ça t'aide.

Steven
Guest

Oliver:Did you enable memory dump?
If so you can upload it and i can open the dump files and see what's crashing it.
dump files are located in %SystemRoot%MEMORY.DMP
or if they are a mini dump files it would be in %SystemRoot%System32Minidump

Steven
Guest

bleh why isn't it posting the slashes? :(
%SystemRoot% MEMORY.DMP
%SystemRoot% System32 Minidump

Ox Horse
Guest

Oliver, I am willing to bet that some of your RAM slots on your motherboard may have gone bad. Try installing the RAM on some of your other slots. This might actually solve your issue, though I would just get a new motherboard just to eliminate more trouble.;assuming you can drop the cash needed.