There we are, Renai Sample is now available :)

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By Oliver (AKA the Admin) on 71 comments
in Categories: Just Talking

A sample or two, please ?

Renai Sample, by the god-level mangaka Homunculus, is on sale :)

I talked about it in depths earlier this month, that was still in the works, but this time this is it, not just a preorder, an official release, you can go and enjoy it it you like ! ^_^

The good points about it :
– fully and natively uncensored
– needless to say : in good English
– the artist and the publisher get a share of the money (don’t they deserve it ?)
– available either in paperback or in digital HQ versions

If you managed to miss the info, well, there you are, this is the first Fakku! publication, and it’s an awesome one :)

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battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago

I PreOrdered it and I'm still waiting for my paperback copy^^

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

Digital for me. I can't buy paper mangas anymore, with my growing kids at home T__T

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago

Why? Do you think it's bad for them to see Sex? They'll do it themselves before long, you know?!

More importantly, in Renai Sample they would actually almost Real Sex with emotion behind it or at least the representation of it…

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

Children who are too young can't mitigate between trivial and important, and they can be positively struck by things we deem unimportant.

Hardcore porn… how to say, ah… there's a reason it's really forbidden for children. Let them grow at their own pace, don't impose on them something that WE, with our adult control over emotions, can read easily.

TL;DR version : you'll understand when you're a parent and you spend years with your children ^^

ayle
ayle
9 years ago

Going digital, the price is right. But wouldn't they be better served by self publishing on Amazon?

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  ayle

It was sold on Amazon, too.

Renai Sample has been removed (dunno why), but Punikano is still there for preorder.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago

>fully and natively decensored

Decensored and uncensored are two different things. Decensor implies someone removed the censor. Fakku has the source file without the censor (or words in the text bubbles, for that matter) ever being there.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

Ah, damn, my wording was bad, if I wrote "decensored".

PrinceHeir
PrinceHeir
9 years ago

Shame this was removed here :\

Still, i might get this since i've fapped a lot from Homunculus :)

Especially Renai Sample ^^

DGKing
DGKing
9 years ago
Reply to  PrinceHeir

You do realize that the link may have been removed, but the file is still out there on dfiles, right?

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  DGKing

It actually isn't. After no downloads for 30 days, the link dies.

Not to mention it's censored. Who would want that when you can readily find a DDL for this version on the Internet in a multitude of places?

starvingthanos
starvingthanos
9 years ago

Eh this didn't do it for me. There's such a thing as too vanilla. I need a bit of kink or conflict or at least some thing different from school girls and white cotton panties.

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago

Don't support Fakku tbh

They colluded with Wani to DMCA sad panda

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

No they didn't.

People WHO ACTUALLY WORK AT Wani have already debunked this claim, not to mention Jacob was served several DMCAs himself.

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Even IF they colluded, it's their "right" to, at least legally and I support that if reasonably affordable it shouldn't be pirated after getting to availability.

...
...
9 years ago

Someone already uploaded it to the cloud…

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  ...

This point is irrelevant. Pirates and potential porn comics buyers are two groups that are not, not entirely, the same. There'll always be piracy, but now there's, in addition, the opportunity for all who will enjoy buying it for real, to buy it. Why not, it's cool like that.

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago

That is correct.
There will ALWAYS be people who want to pirate for pirating's sake, but there will also ALWAYS be *puffs out chest* someone who would support the original creator/author if it is something they really like.

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago
Reply to  ...

So? You do realize Hentairules thrives on "piracy". I'm pretty sure Oliver has posted multiple Homulculous download links before.

NJC
NJC
9 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

But, he also put links of publishers of which we could buy these stuff.

Umbal
Umbal
9 years ago

Just for clarification. If Homunculus is published by Wani, does that mean there will never ever, ever, ever be another Homunculus release here?! Because that would be…be…*runs away crying with waving arms*

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago
Reply to  Umbal

That is correct.
Since Oliver respects the wishes of the scanlators themselves and also doesn't want to get in trouble with Wani^^

Umbal
Umbal
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

Uggh.. a little part of me just died.
Anyway thanks for the info

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago
Reply to  Umbal

I think for at least a short while each time a release gets to us, will be on other sites, including g.e-hentai and exhentai

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

Actually, e-hentai and exhenta8i have been pulling Wani content for a few months or so.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

This was on Ex for a few hours before it got pulled. Twice.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  Umbal

Anything Homunculus gets published by Wani will probably end up here until Oliver gets a DMCA. However, most likely because of the butthurt scanlators experienced it won't get translated in the first place. Supposedly Jacob is getting licenses to publish magazines as they come out, so of you're willing to pay for those (or wait 5 hours since that seems to be the turn around for leaks so far, but Oliver most likely won't be posting that here) you should be getting stuff eventually.

On the other hand, anything Homunculus sends to a different publisher (except Core since they're working with Wani now helping with the DMCAs) or gets published himself (ie, doujinshi) is up for grabs.

PrinceHeir
PrinceHeir
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

Onlt Homunculus? Any other artists?

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  PrinceHeir

No, everything Wani publishes. EVERYTHING.

PrinceHeir
PrinceHeir
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

Samples?

I think Gunma works was included? :O

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  PrinceHeir

Dude, just google it.

Kaze
Kaze
9 years ago

"FAKKU is not available for my region."

I'm going to fucking cry in a corner now.

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago
Reply to  Kaze

I tried using FAKKU via proxy (free proxy mind you) but it sucked, using a real paid for proxy could be different though.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

Or a VPN. You need to pay for it, but it fucking ROCKS.

I renewed recently my VPN subscription, and I used this extra-special promo, only ten euros (what, thirteen dollars ?) for a whole year, and you can choose to have an IP looking like it comes from five various countries, USA, europeans and such.

Here : https://store.cyberghostvpn.com/848/?affiliate=27

The bandwidth's and connexion quality are sweet with them.

Usually, it's more like 50-100$ per year for a VPN offer, so that one was good ^^

PrinceHeir
PrinceHeir
9 years ago

Definitely checking this :D

Thanks Oliver-san!

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

Ah, that surprises me, now that I think of it. What's your country, Kaze ? I didn't imagine that Fakku would ban some countries O_o

Kaze
Kaze
9 years ago

I'm in Japan.

"WTF YOU'RE IN JAPAN DUDE YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE HENTAI YOU WANT-"

Sadly I can't read Japanese, I'm in the country because the military stationed me here. Not that I mind. I guess I'll have to wait until I'm back home to put in an order.

Kaze
Kaze
9 years ago

Or I could try the VPN you linked. Derp. Thank you!

Hero_luka
Hero_luka
9 years ago
Reply to  Kaze

Try out (copy paste) CyberGhost VPN
cyberghostvpn.com/de_de/campaign/pcwelt_sept2014.com

Free 6 months of VPN subscription. the web page is in German but it basically allows you to install on one device, and it'll let you use a VPN or change your simulated proxy address.

I have 12 month subscription which I regularly use to bypass geoblocking and to purchase stuff from Origin.com for cheap (since we get price gouged on software in Australia)

anon
anon
9 years ago

Supporting Jewcob? Why?

Authors won’t get their money (Well, they will get what’s leftover form fakku-server costs, feeding Jewcobs nose, royalties to WANI and if there is anything left, to author)

Sub-par editing/typesetting.

Supporting DMCA of sadpanda (yes, fakku did that, timing on that one is to close to be coincidence, and anyone expecting they will admit to it is being delusional)

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago
Reply to  anon

Thats where you are actually delusional.
I worked in publishing for a while (including contracts between authors and publishers) the part the publisher gets is actually far smaller than the authors part and anything the publisher has to pay for is coming out of that part!
The editing/typesetting is equally good quality-wise (I preOrdered Renai Sample and downloaded it already, it seems to me that its that way (even though i have no actual experience in either))
That is just something conspiracy-theoretics make up AND even IF it was, so what, it's their contract given right (it goes against piracy, was to be expected, wasnt it?!)

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  anon

I always start hissing when somebody's religion is brought as a discussion argument. And here, the funniest part is that Jacob is not even a jew.

Anon, compare two situations :

– before.
Piracy everywhere. Wani sending DMCAs around. Nobody selling their books to westerners, no money flowing from America and Europe towards Japanese mangakas.
– after
Piracy everywhere. Wani sending DMCAs around. Fakku selling their books to westerners, a little flow of money from America and Europe towards Japanese mangakas.

Hey, that's something already.

As for the respective shares, frankly I don't know anything about it, so I may as well STFU. But, still, "it's something".
You can't blame a market who just birthed for being small, otherwise no commercial success would have ever been seen in any business. Gotta have a beginning.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago

The big problem is that Fakku has no existence in actual comicbook stores. If they had a store presence then that would make piracy go down and readership go up. Like me, I am sure if people could buy it while on their monthly pilgrimage to the comic book store would be helpful and beneficial to both Wani and Fakku. Now is Fakku going to come along and distribute with comic book stores or are they going to be snide about it and make it their exclusive?

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

That may be a factor when it comes to etting known and feed the urge to have a hardcopy but its actually a problem when it comes to affordability, since in the prices of the books are then also rent, wage and everything else the store would need.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

I just don't see why wani has to go to fakku when Wani pretty much has everything they need for distribution themselves. They have a presence in stores in America so why not go through that rather than bringing in a middle man that doesn't contribute anything? It's not like they have to release the entire catalogue in one shot, just trickle the titles down to maybe one or two a month in multiple outlets to gauge your sales and go from there. It is just that as a trial, one outlet doesn't help anyone except the people that brokered the deal and that means Fakku is getting the majority of money while everyone else is getting Fakked (sorry, I couldn't help the little pun.) Plus it will be pirated even more due to the limited availability.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

>They have a presence in stores in America so why not go through that

Since when? Unless you're talking about some place selling imported magazines (which I doubt I'd even need two hands to count), they have no such thing.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

Well, I am sure they were probably imported but the fact is that they were in english and they were not censored. This store had a rather big japanese market of products so even when I wanted to order something through them, the shipping would be considerably lower since they imported a lot of product from Japan.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

As far as I am aware, Wanimagazine has never had anything licensed ever before this.

Are you sure you aren't confusing it for Wani Books? That's an entirely different publisher.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

No, this was a few years ago but people seem to be missing the point. Wani should be putting their comics out in multiple outlets rather than just online.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

Wani didn't but there are other's that were licensed and sold in stores. Take the title Domin8 me licensed by eros comics and sold on their Mangeritica label. That was actually done by Takemura Sesshu under the name take on me. Which is funny since this site has both shares available.

If you want more titles that were licensed by them then I would suggest the fantagraphics books wiki page.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

..but that's irrelevant. You said Wani has "a presence in stores in America", but it doesn't because nothing by Wani has ever been licensed before. (Excluding this, obviously).

Domin8/Take on Me is Core Magazine, which does have a good presence in the US. Project-H has released a shit ton of their titles (most recently, Hisasi's Koakuma Kanojo), as have older (currently no longer existing) labels like Eros Comix and Icarus Publishing. Project-H (apparently) tried many times to license Wani material, but they were stubborn and would only work with people who'd do EVERYTHING (including loli, shota, incest and beastality). Jacob was the first one to say "lolkay".

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

I have to ask this. Was Urotsukidoji licensed to be sold in america? I ask because that was a wani publication. I only ask because if this is true then that would mean that Wani did indeed have a presence. Of course they had other companies license their material for sale in america but that was before the internet and web came to be so big.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

Seems you're right, but I did say "as far as I'm aware". That might be the only one ever released before now. And I can't find anything about it (like how well it was received) other than that the company that licensed it went out of business.

If it was a commercial failure, that would explain why WAni never agreed to licensing anything else since.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

I don't believe it was a failure per say. There have been a number of Urotsukidoji h-animes and OVAs that came out. It was pretty much an ultra violent brutal monster rape fest with tentacle rape and I don't think that was something that people in the early eighties were into so much/

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

I was referring to being a failure in the US, not in Japan.

Anyway, only releasing one or two things is NOT a "presence". And even then, no one would know "Wani" by name since they released stuff outside of Japan using other publishing houses. (With their name probably only appearing once on the copyright page.)

If Wani was going to release in America or anywhere else by themselves, they would be forced to create an entire headquarters in America (or somewhere else), otherwise even translated stuff would still need to be censored. It's a lot easier and cost efficient to just license material to places in other countries and let them deal with that shit.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

Well, from what i am aware and in my experience they seemed to sell pretty well where I live. Most video stores and video rental stores had them through the eighties and nineties. I think it was the mentality in America that most people thought that comic books and animation in general was for kids. I believe that was a big reason for it to not be as successful in some regions. Personally in my region, central New York to be more precise, it was and still is rather profitable, in the eighties and nineties every video rental store had a big selection or anime but that was just my experience.

And I still think you are missing the point I was trying to make but I will leave it at that. No sense in arguing anymore.

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

Actually they said they are going to be in comic book stores! Rejoice, you'll be able to buy your hentai.

@LubizAdha
9 years ago

I do not like this. if I was a writer hentai, hentai I will follow other writers such as Matra Milan, Fukudahda, Tosh, Maybe and others. hentai should be FREE FOR ALL!!!!

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  @LubizAdha

While I like piracy, to be frank (yeah, I could never afford to pay for even a fraction of all that I download and enjoy, if piracy offer died, my spending budget wouldn't rise up, it's just my consumption that would end), what you're saying is absolute idiocy.

Everything should be free ? Man, if everything is free, nobody's working in there anymore, and the whole industry shuts down. Mangakas don't make hentai for the pure fun, it's their job. Same for everyone working with them.

What you should have written, more intelligently, is that piracy is best tolerated as part of the global ecosystem, better have people consume your goods for nothing, and staying consumers, with the hope they may get enough money to purchase stuff when possible, rather than people give up on your stuff entirely and forget about you forever.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago

But I thought the internet was created to spread information for free? Hentai has important information that should be free to all. I have learned so much thanks to hentai like what hole to put "it" in, what hole not to put "it" in, what "it" is and how to tell a of your partner is a trap. What if hentai wasn't free, I wouldn't know what "it" is enough to be able to put "it" into what ever hole is the right hole while not knowing that I have stumbled onto a trap or not.

Just a reminder, sarcasm is hard to show when typing and that was sarcasm.

Anyways, wani is going to lose potential buyers due to going with Fakku. They should have went with a trickle down of product through select comic book stores. If they see big sales for the comics then not only would they know they have sales coming in but they would know where the buyers are and they wouldn't have to use a middle man like Fakku that doesn't really lend that much to the deal in the long run.

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

Internet was created so that military communications managed to travel from point A to point B despite potential destruction along several information routes. The world wide web was created so that research labs could work with each other more easily.

Free Information is a sub-product. A phenomenal one, but not the reason of its creation ;)

How to say… I believe you are making the confusion between a privilege (that, with the internet as it is and your access to it, hentai IS free for you), and a principle (that hentai MUST be free).

The availability for free of products (piracy or free sharing when this is not copyrighted) will never be stopped, the internet is too open for this, and commercial solutions cannot compete with products that cost nothing to obtain and that are easy to access. True.

Piracy doesn't kill the commercial market, because people love to own stuff, love to reward the creators. And even if you stopped people from pirating they would almost NOT spend more on commercial products with their limited budgets (the value of this "almost" is key, though), piracy is less giving up on spending money than a seized opportunity to grab stuff because it is easy to grab and it is free. Bonus effect, it helps discover new stuff.

But that does NOT mean this is how things MUST work. Man : time IS money. When people invest their time to such an extent that becomes their job, and their source of income, they DESERVE the money it yields.
In simpler words : nobody's going to work for free.

A hobby, a pastime, that can be for free. Me, I spend around one hour per day on hentairules, and it's not even for free, I get fine Belgian beer money and cover my server fees. But a job, that cannot be for free.
If your hentai only relied on people doing hentai for free, you'd be lucky if you have a new manga every month, at best, and it would be in horrible quality compared to the professional productions of today.

So, well, I was not sarcastic. You wrote something idiotic, and I told you. You may feel butthurt about it, I hope you'll rather think again, and avoid embarassing yourself again like that in public, see this as friendly help so that you don't write it again.

Regarding the rest, as to why Wani chose Fakku, maybe that's because Fakku is a much bigger thing most of us realize. They're solidly poised on American ground, have a ton of audience, of sympathy, they're much better than hired local Americans who have no passion and just work for a salary.
… my guess, at least.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago

Um, I meant my first paragraph of the post was meant as joke hence me saying that it is hard to make something sound sarcastic when typing. I'm not butt hurt over that joke or the fact you didn't get it as a joke but rather the reasoning of what wani is doing. Please think about this before you say it is idiotic, this does actually make a lot of sense if you have a simple understanding of sales.

If Wani wanted money they would have spread the outlets and not have it just through a website. (It doesn't matter if it is fakku or Animenation or J-list or what ever website mind you.) Not only would having multiple outlets mean more product sold, it would also be able to use that information to see where the big spots of sales are and move accordingly. It is a business thing, if you see demand then you move accordingly but if you can't see the demand then how can you move the product accordingly. They would see by the sales the best amount to be printed and not have to be left with overage so that too would mean less money wasted if that is what Wani wants. What is so hard about understanding that?

And Piracy, you will never get rid of that but having multiple outlets would mean more sales and it would bring the piracy down. It pretty much comes down to that. Multiple outlets benefits the company substantially more than just with one outlet no matter what the one outlet is.

Take your belgian beer, would it be more beneficial to the company to sell it through one outlet like a website or multiple outlets like the corner store and others while still selling online to those that can not get it any other way?

This being said by a self-professed idiot. I had a personal license plate registered as 1 IDIOT.

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

Bro. It's on multiple outlets. You should probably just stop posting here, you look dumb.
http://www.jlist.com/product/FAK01 http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmghttp://www.fakku.net/manga/renai-sample-english

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Multiple outlets as in actual comic book stores. Is it so hard to understand that? Okay, does wani only sell their tanks through online sites or do they actually put out the tanks though comic book stores in Japan? If they do then why not put them out in american comic book stores too?

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

Because manga in general sells like shit in book stores in America? Just like anime.

Anyway, you DO realize the paperback version hasn't even been released, right? :S

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

I realize that but manga and anime selling like shit? Have you heard of sailor moon, dragonball or maybe Evangelion. Maybe Akira, or any of the gundam series? Or how about Ghost in the shell, Bleach, Oh my goddess or maybe even One piece, Hellsing, Magic Knight rayearth and possibly Martian successor Nadesico? All manga which became anime which were all licensed in America.

Okay I know that they are not Renai Sample but the fact is that manga and Anime sell here and they sell pretty good enough to actually license them and spend money on them. What about Ogenki clinic? That was licensed here and sold as both hentai manga and anime.

Plus you didn't answer my question, does Wani do business in Japan by online only or do they sell their tanks in comic book stores too? Answer me that then tell me why not do the same in America?

battousai124
battousai124
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

Ok i watched this go on long enough now.
You can't just do the same thing, you have to survey the region firest and what better way to analyse online sales, since they most probably are all over the world. Additionally "normal" manga/anime is an entirely different thing to Hentai Manga/Anime. At least what i know of "porn comics" (i hope thats the best way to generalise hentai manga/anime for western way to see things) are still not entirely accepted into pornography OUTSIDE of japan. If you ask someone who reads hentai manga(watches hentai anime thats a different thing, but looking at it as in "country" then that is not the case. More importantly where stays the rest of the world with only america??? At least to my knowledge there are NO comic book-only stores in germany or at least vanishingly few.

TL;DR REGIONAL DIFFERENCES HAVE TO BE PAID ATTENTION TO!!!

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  battousai124

What I said is they should put it in stores where they can and keep it available online for those that can not get it through a comic book store.

Again that is for those with stores near them, the online sales would still be open for those who can't get the product by store means. And yes, this does work. Many stores in america have both store sales and online sales and they also have reginal sales in different stores based on reginal sales to push product that sell better in one region versus another.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  goatboy

Places like Best Buy used to have aisle long anime sections. Now they barely even have a shelf. So, yes. The majority of anime and manga sell like shit or are flops. The ones you named are the most successful ones. And even then Bleach had bad ratings enough to get canceled in Japan.

Japan, on the other hand, used to sell porn (manga or otherwise) in 7 Eleven. We don’t even do that. I’m not even sure if they sell magazines anymore. Last time I was in one I didn’t see any. In other words, Japan has manga everywhere. Other than Barns and Noble, I’m not sure of any place it’s sold near me.

goatboy
goatboy
9 years ago
Reply to  HurpDurp

It depends on where you shop. I have two best guy stores near where I live and the smaller one has a ten foot isle while the bigger one has one that is twenty feet long.

HurpDurp
HurpDurp
9 years ago
Reply to  @LubizAdha

But Maybe and Tosh are Wani tho.