An email server related question…
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Loading...Hello, maybe you could help, I’m asking the question just in case 
My ISP has started applying severe antispam filtering to the emails sent using their server to send emails, and, very annoyingly, more and more of my emails are blocked, being mistaken as spam. Sometimes I can’t figure at all the reason, sometimes it’s ridiculous (“hentai rape” is blocked, while “rape” or “hentai rap” is allright, WTF).
Just today, in 4 occasions, I had to re-write and re-write my emails. For the last of my emails, I finally had to give up and instead send as a reply the URL of a text file in which I had saved the contents of this email. – It’s plain ridiculous, I tell you :mad:
And so, here is the question I’m asking : would it be simple, maybe, to set up another sending email server ? Only outbound emails, inbound emails make it just fine. Or are there other free sending email servers available, somewhere on the interweb ?
Thanks if you can help with a super-simple reply 
Update : Gmail won’t do, I intend to keep my current email address :o
– UPDATE 2 : It’s done, I’ve got a server to use now My web host was offering an available email server connexion for the paying customers needing one
Thanks a lot for your suggestions and replies in the comments, everyone
Sounds like the easiest solution would be to get a webmail account such as gmail or yahoo. If you really like your local email client then you can tie it into gmail so outgoing email is sent from gmail's servers instead of you ISP's. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic…
Assuming the simplest configuration of POP on Thunderbird: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answ…
feel free to email me for questions or to test it
I wholeheartedly agree with Some Random Person. I use Gmail and have never regretted it. They have a top-notch spam filter, which has never blocked anything that wasn't actually for me. Plus it's all online, so if you switch ISP's or your hard drive goes blooey, you won't lose any emails. I have emails on my account going back to 2005.
Thanks for the suggestions, but I intend to keep my current email address, so Gmail won't do.
I'm not favouring a plan in which I'm handing my balls on a golden plate to some private company, something I'd be doing using gmail
But before that "philosophical" reason, more simply, I want to keep my email address, so Gmail can't help :p
Thanks for the suggestion, though
Actually, if you configure your e-mail client to report your reply address as the address you intend to use, I'm pretty sure gmail or hotmail's e-mail servers would actually handle it.
Did you test with the gmail server as the outbound server, send out with your primary e-mail address set as the "from" line yet?
I'm making a fast reply : thanks a lot for your suggestions, I've got a server to use now, provided by my web hosts to paying customers needing one.
Thanks for your time
You can set up Gmail to get mail from your current account as long as it supports POP access. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=e…
Then you can configure Gmail to spoof another address. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=e…
there is http://www.google.com/a/
usually for business purpose lol
where you pinpoint the cname of tyour domain address to gmail
I'm making a fast reply : thanks a lot for your suggestions, I've got a server to use now, provided by my web hosts to paying customers needing one.
Thanks for your time
While it may be easy to setup an email server, its much harder to properly set it up and maintain it so everything it sends isn't marked as SPAM by the recipient's ISP.
For instance, your ISP will need to allow you to setup reverse PTR records in their DNS for whatever IP you host it on (and don't even think about trying to set it up on a dynamic IP).Then there's even more weird stuff like SPF records….
But on top of that, from as a person who ran support for an ISP, we were constantly having to track and shut-down improperly setup email servers that are getting hijacked at businesses. You'll be spending a decent amount of time being a server admin making sure everything's always up to date, locked down, and secured.
So to be honest, the best solution is to just sign up for some kind of hosted email service. I do know Google offers Gmail for Domains but even your domain registrar will offer cheap access to their POP/SMTP/IMAP servers. Go-Daddy, for example, is only $13 for a whole year…
You can install a lightweight SMTP server on your computer to send mails directly through your internet, but set up the outgoing address as whatever email address you want. Hence you bypass your isp or a private email service like gmail and instead you send mails directly through your own internet, and no your mail won’t go through your isp’s mail server.
And how do you think an ISP will see that SMTP server installed on your home computer? How is that going to be any different to them from a VIRUS infected computer sending stuff out on port 25?
Unless you're on a commercial-class connection, no incoming email server in this world will accept email that comes from a SMTP server that shows its hosting IP to be something like 24-X-X-X.sbc.net
Get off your arm-chair IT and go read a book before giving such bad advice.
A good example would be ArGoSoft Mail Server which I used in the past for outgoing mail only.
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Thanks for your time
http://smarterware.org/3628/host-your-domain-emai…
this article expands on shoji's comment, but in the "free" price range instead of incurring a cost. If I had a domain this is the kind of setup I would have. Your email address would be something like [email protected] but gmail would handle the actual mail server for free. This way if gmail starts acting evil (like your ISP now) you dont have to change your email address just your mail provider to someone else.
I'm making a fast reply : thanks a lot for your suggestions, I've got a server to use now, provided by my web hosts to paying customers needing one.
Thanks for your time
Per Mr Anon's suggestion setting up gmail to appear to be your current email address is quite easy.
Just have Gmail import emails from your other email address automatically.
I agree with most of the comment
1°) setup a mail server, while not really difficult with a linux box, is being difficult with plenty of (bad) balcklist of other mail server which block the mail when they are in a “client” ip subnet and so on.
So I will not recommend it at first
2°) gmail can be used to send email for _another_ email adresses.
The setup is pretty easy, and just require you to have access to the email adress (ie not a “noreply”).
After that, you only need to configure your mail client to use the smtp of gmail (which is secure by the way).
3°) Another way, and also very easy, it’s to use the smtp of your fai.
Which one do you use ? free , orange or neuf, or a “false” isp (they are only these three network in France, so all other use one of the network)
You just need to configure your mail client to use your fai smtp.
One of the “bad” point of this solution : you can travel and use the same smtp, since the access is limited to the client of the network.
The other bad point is it’s not secure, and we don’t really know what they do with the logs. (gmail too).
Well setting up a email acc correctly is rather.. cumbersome.
Luckily I don’t have to write up the whole stuff, since Jeff Atwood wrote about that some time ago.
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/04/so-youd-like-to-send-some-email-through-code.html
Using gmail is way less work, but it’s not impossible to get email from your own domain working as well – at least if your ISP configures the rev PTR record correctly for you.
I love hentai rap
lol
WTF is the relation, Stannis ? ^^;;
Anyway, I'm pasting my same reply to everyone, out of courtesy :
I'm making a fast reply : thanks a lot for your suggestions, I've got a server to use now, provided by my web hosts to paying customers needing one.
Thanks for your time
Unless you’re on a commercial-class connection, no incoming email server in this world will accept email that comes from a SMTP server that shows its hosting IP to be something like 24-X-X-X.sbc.net
1°) Unless the sysadmin is pretty bad and doesn’t know what the rfc says about which mail must be accepted and not, the PTR musn’t a valid reason to refuse an email (it can be one of the reason, but not the only one).
But, there are some pretty bad configured smtp server in the world.
There are even smtp server which just block a whole C-class and so on.
The RBL aren’t so good, and must be choosen carefully.
I’ve managed an smtp server on a “commercial class” connection, and have more difficulty to to make it work with the two other smtp of the same enterprise, than my personnal smtp server, on a “non commercial class” connection* which work with most of the smtp server.
*my “non commercial class” is from the ISP Free (French ISP), and we have
– IPv6
– PTR
– Deban of the 25 port**
**which is pretty useless to send email, it’s only important to receive them.
I'm making a fast reply : thanks a lot for your suggestions, I've got a server to use now, provided by my web hosts to paying customers needing one.
Thanks for your time