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Cid
Cid
13 years ago

Now that's commitment

Gameperv
Gameperv
13 years ago

Hey, I got this one. It's a sweet gem just like you said, the girl is actually a german living in Tokyo. Japan/Germany, 2 the lands that has a very open-view of sex, what a combo.

O, how I love this manga just for the interracial pairing, it's shame they don't make these kind in great scale…

fritz
fritz
13 years ago
Reply to  Gameperv

Germans are not that open minded (sadly) and japanese people are even less.
That's why Japan have this censoreship rule thing whatever.

fritz
fritz
13 years ago
Reply to  Gameperv

In fact, japanese people actually do know nothing about Germany and as well we do not know anything about Japan. In case I can just speak for the majority of germans, not for individuals.

Reideen
Reideen
13 years ago
Reply to  fritz

Well it depends on the region you're coming from. I'm from Berlin and I'd say we're pretty open minded. I think bigger cities mean bigger tolerance. Small towns or villages are less open minded thats right.
Japan is the way it is, just because of their limitations and their view of honor. The more people try to supress their fetishes or their desires, the worse it becomes. Thats why no matter what fetish you have, you can find "material" in Japan.
And…well as far as I know you can "buy" the right to erase the censorship in japanese porn. But a lot of japanese people see their censorship as "japanese tradition" and don't want to erase it ^^".

Fritz
Fritz
13 years ago
Reply to  Reideen

"Well it depends on the region you're coming from. I'm from Berlin and I'd say we're pretty open minded. I think bigger cities mean bigger tolerance. Small towns or villages are less open minded thats right. "
Yes, I agree with you.

willy191
willy191
13 years ago

This one is one of my favorite…

Lanin
Lanin
13 years ago

In the inner I would say Japan and Germany is very open minded in Sex that`s why the porn industry in both country is so great. But in terms of the social system japan has big, big problems. The whole rape thing wouldn`t be there, if the japanese wouldn`t have a problem in their culture. In your own house you can do what you like but in the public it`s problematic to show your love.
And here there is definitly something different because germany is very, very open minded even in the public and in the majority. You can kiss each other in the public, even as a homosexual. You have dozens of parades here, the TV is full of transvestits, gays, lesbians and sex and a number of nudie magazines open in every super market and newspaper shop you just can`t count.
I think Japan could learn much from Germany. I don`t want to know how many women on the island are unsatisfied because speaking about this topic is a taboo.

What Japan and Germany bounds are at my opinion some things in history and culture. Both have had codex of honour or still have and both often lied in the shadow of a greater one. Both cultures made unbelievable weapons and armor of iron and steel. I think both would be more akin if christianity never happened in the germanic lands because germany lost much of the mythology which was very similar.

Oh and I like this one. I want more german girls but more adult (and maybe more dominant^^).

fritz
fritz
13 years ago
Reply to  Lanin

Maybe germany is an open minded country, but it's not that extreme as you say it is.
We don't see gay sex on TV, not even in the late ours. There may be broadcasters just for gays on tv, but it's not popular to "normal" people. Homosexualitiy IS a topic in our everyday life, but it's not THAT normal ;)

It may be you have a wrong picture of germanies culture, as you match it up to the japanese. There may be little overlaps, but that are little things. Japan is proud of the germany of WWII (there are wehrmacht fanclubs etc.) and think that todays germany is the same. Thats a hughe failure.
In history lessons we learn at first, what the nazies had done to that time and how we can prevent this to happen in the future; we are very ashamed of what our ancestors had done to the jews in WWII. So, please don't mix our countries; I think that's an insult to us.
And the pre christian time and even the christian time is a total different. There are no connections between samurais and nordic swordswingers or knights ;)

As you said: Japanese people are sick, because their government and culture does not allow them to be free in a sexual way, so they have to manifest it in sick sexual desires. And I don't want germany to be connected in that. So I don't like that this mangaka thinks he would know something about our culture and tries to reprodukt a german person and gives foreigners a wrong sight on our minds and spirits.

Lanin
Lanin
13 years ago

Uh we see many gay on TV, it may be through american tv shows or through german gays themself. Of course, if you say you`re gay in the wrong parts of the land the rightwing folks are behind you but that doesn`t really happen. Germany is one of the most free countries in the world when it comes to sexuality. That is not an opinion it`s a fact. You can compare it to the USA or to east-european countries, asian, arabian, african or south american. It may be THAT normal but it is very normal and there is no sign that this could ever change. That even Germany still has to learn and develope is of no discussion.

As I compared Germany and Japan I didn`t meant the second World War and I never thought of seeing them on the very same level. I do meant the little things. I am a German myself, so I know what "our" ancestors done. Well, it is wrong to think that Germans in the majority are very depressed it`s more that many people are very annoyed because they did nothing and don`t want to hear all the times that they are nazis. My Grand-Grandpa in example didn`t fought for Germany but for the spanish resistance against the fascist Franko. Another Grand-Grandpa fought in Berlin against the red army.

Japan on the other hand can learn from Germany to accept the crimes and Japan did some very horrible crimes. I was happy to see that the politics seem to change after the Sorry of the prime minister I think last month or so. But no people around the world should be stigmatisized for the crimes some of the people in their rows did. It`s not the people, it`s a person, a group or a government.

That is also why I think it is alright that the mangaka did what he did, because also Germans are very different. All in all you can find things that are common on most folks. I think an open mind is something that is now part of the german spirit. One of the problems in Japan is that they have to much of themself, they see Japan everywhere. At least, that is only a hentai it`s not meant to be educational but as long as they don`t insult a foreigner (and a happy, free girl is not an insult) it`s okay. And if I see someone like Naoki Urasawa in the manga world I even hold the power to believe that the industry is not done yet. A little bit of hope, through the high level of his.

Fritz
Fritz
13 years ago
Reply to  Lanin

That your a countryman of mine let me interprete your text in a very different way; so I'm sorry for making accusations to you.

Of course we see many gays in our TV shows; but I ment the actual sex, which is not shown in particular. Compared to other countries, we are indeed a free country, when it comes to sexuality; but you can't say that tv is "full of transvestits, gays, lesbians". Maybe you could say this in compared to other countries, but just in the point of the german's view it's a little bit to extreme.
It just sounds, as if germany's major population actually is gay.

I agree with you that we are annoyed to be connected to nazi germany all the time; the shamefullnes goes hand in hand with that.

It's okay with me, when germans are involved in stories, but it's not okay with me, as if they just represent stereotypes and flat charackters (as in the manga "Gantz" [wenn dir das was sagt], as the reporter finds out, that the gantz-ball is produced in germany and the germans mostly have blue eyes and blond hair).
Before I put up a story, I'll inform myself very clearly about what I'm writing about; but maybe this is too much efford, for just a h-manga. I'm just worried about how foreigners see germany (this is a paranoia which the comparison to nazi-germany brings with it) and that's why I am an enemy of such stories. Naja, vielleicht hätte ich dann den Namen "Fritz" nicht als Spitznamen aussuchen sollen; ist wohl ein bisschen unüberlegt gewesen.

Lanin
Lanin
13 years ago

Of course "full of xyz" is not 24/7 I know, I know^^ But I mean in comparison to other countries it`s filled. No one would say "you`re gay? You can`t go on air. Hey help me get this gay out of here!". So this is my point. We even have somewhere a "gay channel". Even if I think it`s as helpful as the Bully movie "Periode 1" if it comes to understanding. I think that is problem of germany, it`s more "fun fun fun" and clichè even from the ones themself. But better that as the situation in the USA.

I also agree to the hand in hand thing, yep that`s it. Both goes hand in hand.

Gantz I didn`t read, it was ever to weird but I heard that germany is involved into the story, which I like. But the stereotypes I don`t like. Maybe we have 50% germans with blond hair but that`s also 50% with other hair colors and so on. In the H-Manga I thought it was cool as that came:

He: We shouldn`t do this in public
She: Why? When I was in Germany I saw scenes like that all the time everywhere. it was really common.
He: It was not! Don`t lie to me with a straight face thinking I don`t know better…

So the artist did know. I think the ending is even realistic compared to japanese society.
And to normal manga I just need to put out Urasawa again with his Monster. This guy really informed himself, went to Germany, made photographs ecetera. It`s no wonder he is called "the new god of manga". If it comes to mature and stories of high quality he is just THE man.
[Das mit Fritz ist mir auch aufgefallen *g* aber keine Sorge, daraus dreh ich dir keinen Strick ;) Ich hab meistens auch "Steiner" als Hintername, ist jetzt auch nicht so unklischeehaft^^]

Fritz
Fritz
13 years ago
Reply to  Lanin

There's no point I wouldn't agree with you. Maybe I was a little bit too hard with the manga. I'm just feared that foreigners get a wrong picture of Germany; but maybe it's not preventable, because you it's just easier to define people, religions e.g. over a stereotype. So, we all havel to deal with it :p

Cluster
Cluster
13 years ago

redet einfach deutsch -.-

Gameperv
Gameperv
13 years ago

If you guys saw that poll on G4tv, you'd know that Germany was on top of the Porn industry, only to be beaten by Japan in that poll. But I'm a caribbean, so I don't know any better about Japan/Germany.

And yeah, about the whole nazi pairing germans, I for one am trying very hard to block that off my head. But you do know the "blood is thicker than water" phrase. Some people just can't leave something die and those who think it's their destiny to rule all crap…

Fritz
Fritz
13 years ago

I didn't know there was a poll. As I look into the internet it is hard to find german pron; mostly it's american. But maybe I just have to look into german videostore to find such material (but why should I; internet's for porn lol)

If it comes to racism I think there are countries, which are a hundred times worse than germany.
Those, who fought in WWII are dead or are going to die soon; this happening is 55 years ago.
I can't denie that there is racism in germany, but in some (englisch speaking) boards people just call other people "nigger" and "smelly foreigner", mostly americans. So a new (stereotypical) picture is about to manifest in my mind: the racist american. It's bad that we just define people over a stereotype, because a minority supports it.

Lanin
Lanin
13 years ago

Oh I see many german porn if I go to the big sites like realraptalk or xxx blog. It`s not as big as america but it`s not to rare. Unfortunatly most of it is amateur or disgusting stuff, so I stay with american porn.

But yeah, overseas there seems to be still a problem with racism, much bigger than here. But we shouldn`t lay back. We still have a great issue with sexism which still is very okay. It`s no wonder our comedian Mario Barth fills a whole stadium with male and female jokes. But if a Mel Brooks makes fun of something else like nazis hell opens. Maybe because no one knows he`s a jew. Well, still problems to solve everywhere. At least we can fill the time between with good hentai from here.^^

Fritz
Fritz
13 years ago

Hehe – I agree, I agree :)

H the German
H the German
13 years ago

Reminds me (german) of a convention I visited lately.

I was with some old friends from school and a college friend. And she brought some friends as well.
(Now the interesting part) One of her friends spent a year (or so) in the sacred land of Japan, also went to school there. And as there are always so many Cosplayers at the Conventions nowadays she was "costumed" in her school uniform she had to wear there.
It. looked. AWESOME. Totally legendary.

And now we got there a doujin with german schoolgirl in Japan getting naughty *kukuku*

Leo Khan
Leo Khan
13 years ago
Reply to  H the German

Picture? :P