A quick question about REM, if the fans could tell, maybe…

1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (3 votes, average: 3.67 out of 5)
Loading...
By Oliver (AKA the Admin) on 26 comments
in Categories: Just Talking

Hi there !

I don’t know if you’ve seen the news, this crazy ridiculous news bringing shame to Italy ? The Italian scientists who, when asked if there were risks to have a massive earthquake in Aquila, could only respond “we don’t know, there is a risk for sure, but there’s no giving you forecasts” are facing six years of jail. Thousands of years ago, scapegoats would have considered themselves lucky to be only sent to jail for such a serious cause, but in the XXIst century, I don’ think there’s much to brag about.
No shit, they couldn’t tell there WAS going to be IN SIX DAYS a killer earthquake, so they’re condemned to 6 years of jail for manslaughter. Seriously.
Real estate guys can sleep in peace, though.

My advice to all scientists : the next time you’re asked a risk evaluation, give everyone the finger, explain it is mathematically impossible to divide by the number of fucks you give, and if your audience insists, respond with a quote from REM : « It’s the end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine) ».

… And that led me to search for LIVE versions of this song, “just because”.

… And, I finally reach the reason why I’m posting here, I found two perfect live versions, full of energy, better than black coffee !
However, I have no idea where they come from. I’d really love to get the CD where they come from, if there has ever been a CD with those versions of course… Could I ask you guys, if you know REM, if the two songs I loved have a CD version ?

The first version, the one with the highest voltage, piano notes, RHA YEAH ! However, it’s from a small event, in a shopping street, I doubt there will be an “official” recording. Who knows, though !

The second version, this time from an official concert, I’m certain there must be a CD or a DVD for this ! :3

Thanks a lot if you can help ;)

Subscribe
Notify of
guest

26 Comments
oldest
newest most voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Pay attention
Pay attention
11 years ago

Actually, seismic waves comes in swarms of four or more, the latter being more destructive than the first ones, often after two weeks or more. Despite the huge release of radon gas from underground, they told the people "It's all ok, everything is fine", because Mr Berlusconi told them to do so; so those people lowered their attention and went killed under the crumbles. HUNDRED OF PEOPLE.
They choose to pay lip service to Mr Berluskazzo Testadikazzo instead of fulfill their duty.
T H E Y D E S E R V E T O D I E I N T H E F U C * * * N' H E L L, and you don't dare mess with some other nation's tragedy.

Mikelransom
Mikelransom
11 years ago
Reply to  Pay attention

I see people make fun of the Tsunami, Japan's Earthquake, Hurricane Katrina, 9/11, and every other tragedy all the time. Welcome to the internet.

common sense
common sense
11 years ago
Reply to  Pay attention

So you honestly think that they KNEW it was going to happen, and they left them there to die on purpose? Come on.

Fern
Fern
11 years ago
Reply to  Pay attention

Are you retarded?

Pay attention
Pay attention
11 years ago
Reply to  Fern

A lot more less than you for sure mister Big One. :)

Pay attention
Pay attention
11 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rROgB5Q

The proof they are all guilty.

Ion
Ion
11 years ago

I read an article a few months ago about Italy suffering from a severe brain drain. It mentioned how the younger generation thought it was plain to see but those running the country didn’t get it. The people in charge said they were working on solutions.

Then this happens…

Pay attention
Pay attention
11 years ago
Reply to  Ion

Actually the only system that actually can predict seismic waves – the radon emission measurement – has been demostrated real with this earthquake. And they put its inventor in jail because of his prevision. Not only that. They should have considered the casistics of italian earthquakes before reassuring people. So yes they should have valued better all of the infos.

xria
xria
11 years ago
Reply to  Pay attention

The guy you are talking about that can "predict earthquakes" has been wrong 3 times before claiming he knew earthquakes were coming, and didn't publicly pronounce about the supposed upcoming earthquake, only saying he had afterwards (and he only claims to have done so an hour or so before the quake, which would have been of limited use to the authorities even if we believe him this time), so using him as "proof" that scientists knew an earthquake was coming is pretty naive, he is just being used as a tool by the government to point blame away from themselves (unnecessarily given their is no reason they should be able to predict the quakes).

Svartalf
Svartalf
11 years ago

Italy's justice system is a joke, or Berlusconi would be in prison… so no real surprise that some judge decided to let anger go before actual science.

Pay attention
Pay attention
11 years ago
Reply to  Svartalf

That's because Berlusconi made it become like that…

ARE YOU JOKING
ARE YOU JOKING
11 years ago
Reply to  Svartalf

then would you, as an actual scientist, reassure people for there's nothing to fear any more and it's all over WHEN YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO BACKUP WITH FACTS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? and if you were to be told by politicians to lie in such a way, would arresting you be anger or justice?

PS. Unfortunately our justice has been tryin' to arrest B. for his deeds for the last 20 years. Only problem is they have to operate INSIDE the law, B. DECIDES the laws (and violates it, of course).

You can guess it can be quite frustrating to be italians certain times…

Hectotane
Hectotane
11 years ago

"An ugly guy has a better chance of having sex with a hot chick than scientist can at finding out when an earthquake will strike."

That was what I was gonna say. But instead, I'll just remind everyone to vote Democrat; since Republicans HATE facts and reality then wonder why bad things happen.

Charlie
Charlie
11 years ago

About the autoblog stuff. That image show in my feed. So is it ok to use google reader on this site ?

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
11 years ago
Reply to  Charlie

Early reply, I'll reply later to the comments requiring some IQ : yep Charlie, don't worry, this is just testing stuff, that won't happen often ^^

Charlie
Charlie
11 years ago

Thanks.

Avio
Avio
11 years ago

As a scientist, you have to report facts and you should get punished if you don't. Scientific journals and letters are not tabloids and modern media. Science must be backed by some sort of evidence, whether that be quantitative or qualiitative. Quantitative is what you usually see and what is heavily relied on because it tells us certain things that we have a predisposition to believe from hypothesis to come to a conclusion based on that. If your conclusion is tweeked in favor of some outside source that is not mounted evidence you're a fraud. As the person said in the first post, seismology has many techniques in order to predict earthquakes, and I'd like to add that it's not as inaccurate as people think it is. Seismologists and volcanologists usually have good amounts of data to provide a conclusion.

Pay attention
Pay attention
11 years ago
Reply to  Avio

Exactly. There was a huge amount of risks in predicting this earthquake. The other posters do not realize they got punished because they failed to predict it, but because they PREDICTED THERE WAS NOT GOING ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE FOR SURE. This was their fault and they were judged guilty because of that. They choose to lie on political suggestions and not by founding their evaluation on scientific facts…

Not Gallileo Anymore
Not Gallileo Anymore
11 years ago

And I thought the United States was the land of 'anti-science'*. Seems there is some competition!

*They still have the Creation Museam, teaching children that man lived with dinosaurs 6000 years ago… so the United States still wins the anti-science award… and the 'brainwash your children' award.

Gent
Gent
11 years ago

Oliver, no idea about the sources for those live recordings, but…
I often use flashgot – https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/fl
plus Audacity – http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ to DL & rip audio from youtube videos of never-printed, must-have songs…

person
person
11 years ago

"Radon is attractive as a potential earthquake predictor because being radioactive it is easily detected),[59] and its short half-life (3.8 days) makes it sensitive to short-term fluctuations. A 2009 review[60] found 125 reports of changes in radon emissions prior to 86 earthquakes since 1966. But as the ICEF found in its review, the earthquakes with which these changes are supposedly linked were up to a thousand kilometers away, months later, and at all magnitudes. In some cases the anomalies were observed at a distant site, but not at closer sites. The ICEF found "no significant correlation".[61] Another review concluded that in some cases changes in radon levels preceded an earthquake, but a correlation is not yet firmly established.[62]"
A guy by the name of Giampaolo Giuliani did make prediction of an earthquake: multiple wrong predictions, to the point where he got cited for causing public panic on April 29. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_predictio

As for the "no chance of earthquake" claim, that in fact was only the view of two of the convicted: Barberi and De Bernardi, who made the statement at a press conference on April 30. All the other guys in fact made statements in committee that an earthquake can neither be predicted accurately nor ruled out. The prosecutor claimed that all are responsible for not contradicting those two guys, but what the heck were they supposed to do? Run around spreading panic (and getting cited) like Giuliani did? It's damned if you do, damned if you don't. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/10/scihttp://www.nature.com/news/2010/100622/full/46599

kevmeister
kevmeister
11 years ago

do a search on youtube for the version of that song by Great Big Sea. I like their version better (it seems to have more energy)…

Vincent
Vincent
11 years ago

Olivier, la première vidéo est issue d'un live à Toronto (de 2003, de mémoire), et la deuxième vient du DVD "Perfect Square", datant de la même année :) Pas de CD officiel de ces deux concerts, en revanche… Perso, ma version préférée de cette chanson reste celle du Monster tour (1995), du DVD "Road Movie" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKTF_DuGuS8

Oliver AKA The Admin
Admin
11 years ago
Reply to  Vincent

Merci ENORMEMENT, Vincent ^_^

ARE YOU JOKING?
ARE YOU JOKING?
11 years ago

ARE YOU ALL JOKING??? the sentence clearly stated that the purpose is not to punish them for they were not able to foresee a damn earthquake! They are guilty for encouraging (under political pressure) people to go back to their houses for it was all over and nothing to fear.

NOW HOW CAN I SAY THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A FU….G EARTHQUAKE WHEN SIENCE HAVE NO WAY TO SAY THAT FOR SURE!

Now, to Mr. Too-Many-Ls-In-GaLileo, that's exactly because we are Italians, not americans, that we CARE abut scientist's words! when scientists LIE (for political purposes) people DIE!

Kris
Kris
10 years ago

To get back yo your original question, Ollie: I found this:
R.E.M. – It's The End Of The World – YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
and this:
IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD (AS WE KNOW IT) LYRIC VIDEO … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVmB3lRjCmc
Sep 27, 2010 … Vocal recording of "It's the End of the World (as We Know it)" as by REM. Vocals by Ted Agee of Escaping Neverland and A Nation Falls.
and THIS:
It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine) – Wikipedia … – Wikipedia on Ask.com
ask.com/wiki/It's_the_End_of_the_World_as_We_Know_It_(And_I_Feel_Fine)
"It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)" is a song by the rock band R.E.M., which appeared on their 1987 album Document… Hope they're of some help!