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Hello everyone :)

I’ve had recurring worries that my video card may be approaching the end of its life, and before I buy a new model, I would really, really appreciate some advice.

Thing is, you see, I have very limited knowledge about graphical cards, to the point I’m not confident in my ability to tell truth from bullshit in my web searches, or to tell still valid info from completely obsolete info.

I don’t demand much from a video card, it has to work easily, and allow me to play The Witcher III in 4K res.
*cough*justkiddingaboutTheWitcher*cough*
Let’s settle with : deliver honorable performance if I want to play previous-gen games like Skyrim, or other games I would like to try some day, like Fallout 3 (I ragequitted because of the pipboy’s minuscule unsortable window, after Skyrim’s SkyUI, I’ll try again, some day), one of the Dragon Age games (Inquisition with very low settings ? ^^;;), maybe Borderlands, Cities Skylines, or Civilization Beyond Earth, that kind of stuff :)
To give you an idea, at the present time, with my current GT430 (1 GB RAM), I played Skyrim with 20-25 fps in average res and settings, it would have peaked at 40 fps if I hadn’t added mods. And even with those low settings, I had the gaming time of my life in Skyrim, skipping on quests and simply strolling in the wild to enjoy the feeling, I’d love to play it again some day while enjoying even more the immersion thanks to much better or much smoother visuals :D

A huge problem, there is a hard limit on the size of the video card, as inside my PC tower, it can occupy a maximum width of 19 centimeters (7.47 inches).
See that photo (full-size here):
I beg you, pretend to ignore the dust everywhere :D
(I doubt you’ll believe me, but I airbombed the shit out of my box for dust particles just 3 days ago, FFS)

Lastly, I’m not rolling on money, lots of other things sucked out my money recently, so the very best I can spend is around 150 € (167 $), and less would be better.

These are a lot of limits for a lot of dreams, I know, I know ^^
(again : max width 19 centimeters, max price 150 €; max width 7.47 inches, max price 167 $)
Still, in this context, would you have some advice to share ?
Some models to recommend ?
Some mistakes to avoid ?
A reason for prices to fall very soon, justifying a prolungated wait ?

Update: FYI, the rest of my hardware is (a) motherboard (MSI Z68-G43 G3 MS7750 1.0), (b) CPU (Intel G860) socket 1155LGA, 2×4 Go DDR3 Crucial PC3-12800, 3 Sata disks, 1 SSD disk, a 500W “Advance” PSU.
A power usage simulator – thanks guys – gave me a current consumption of 269W.

At the present time, if I must buy a card in emergency (AKA : RIP my GT430 for good), after a friendly discussion on Twitter, for instance, I know a model that would fit in my case,  an MSI GeForce GTX 750 OC V1 – 2 Go (whatever all those specs may mean).
If there’s better, I’m open for suggestions, thank you :)
(And if you’re French, links to French shops will be welcome too, merci les gars !! ^^)

Updates a day later : THANK YOU!!
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELPFUL INFORMATION!!! :shock:

For the details of what came out of today :

I am inkling towards a GeForce GTX 750 Ti, now, and wondering if there is a chance/risk for the price of this one to strongly evolve in the relatively shor term.

Most other questions were answered, once again, you guys are awesome, I’m very grateful :)
There were plenty of suggestions to buy a new case : when my mobo/CPU dies, not yet, as now it would only be a luxury spending (something I forbid myself.)


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Oliver AKA The Admin

From past experience, I've learned that it is *not* useless to summarize the strong restrictions I have to face, if you suggest something that doesn't respect these, you're – sadly – making a suggestion for nothing.

– max length : 19 centimeters / 7.47 inches
– max price : 150 € / 167 $

I'll also mention I can still wait, and at worst borrow for a short while a crappy graphical card from many years ago, with which it will be impossible to play games but that will still serve desktop use properly.
Well, maybe my card will give up and die suddenly, but I hope she can still go on for a bit longer.
So, IF there is a reason to wait for a determined time (hint : I don't care for super expensive brand new gamer cards, it's out of my range and too big in my pc case), please, do tell me :)

Thank you ^^

kazx
kazx

use https://pcpartpicker.com if you put your motherboard model and case model they will tell you if it fits well.

Guest
Guest

This the best VGA you can get for that price & considering your PSU : Zotac GTX750Ti
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IFZ547Q/ref=p

Guest
Guest

This the best VGA you can get for that price & considering your PSU : Zotac GTX750Ti
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IFZ547Q/ref=p

Guest
Guest

This the best VGA you can get for that price & considering your PSU : Zotac GTX750Ti
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IFZ547Q/ref=p

arifst
arifst

This the best VGA you can get for that price & considering your PSU : Zotac GTX750Ti
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IFZ547Q/ref=p

mvee
mvee

how about this? http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Overclocke

comes with free witcher 3 and arkham knight

shiinzo
shiinzo

actually the card is 17cm long not 11.7 inches

Oliver AKA The Admin

The one at amazon ?
http://amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Overclocked-GD

Quoting that page: "Product Dimensions: 11.7 x 2 x 8.3 inches ; 14.4 ounces "
Which, according to Google, makes it over 29 centimeters :
https://google.com/search?hl=en&q=11.7+inches

And, anyway, that's twice over my price limit, that's life.

darkalterkazuma
darkalterkazuma

I think that might be the package, but in my opinion, you really need a tower upgrade first, every good card out there won't fit in your tower, start there, and then get your graphics card, then a ddr3 or 4 Capatable motherboard, it looks like you still have ddr2 ram in there, you want quality, go intel, you want to not pay through the nose, go amd

Oliver AKA The Admin

Sorry, I haven't been clear enough on this topic : my finances at home are tight. I'm not a student with no fixed expenses eating up all that I'm earning.

I can't go and buy a new case, a new CPU, new RAM, new shit and stuff.

liefericksonday
liefericksonday

get a new computer. you won't be able to fit any modern gfx cards in that.

Blackwand
Blackwand

^ This.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Sure, pay me that PC. Or else, I'll stick to replacing only the dead parts :D

liefericksonday
liefericksonday

then get a new case.

Schuyler Thorpe
Schuyler Thorpe

I'm surprised. I thought with all the Deposit Files downloads I've been doing on a regular basis, you'd be rolling in the dough.

As for a graphics card, I really haven't played around with old tower in awhile, but I've always been a fan of the GeForce-series graphic cards that are on the market. Some you can get dirt cheap, but others…? About $200 for a top of the line model.

But these days, you really don't need a fancy-schmancy graphics card to play your games on. Some mid-line model graphic cards can do a surprisingly better job than the high end market version.

So maybe for about $60-$100 you could get a pretty decent card for your tower PC and have enough power to play your games on.

Or if you're lucky, you can buy a replacement for your old card with the same–but new–card?

Just a thought. :0)

Oliver AKA The Admin

Haha, sorry, but no ^^

Depositfiles and the like may promise they pay 5$ for 1000 downloads, but this is as convincing as a 4-yo kid telling he believes in Santa.

My site's earnings pay for my dedicated server, the added fees coming around like when it needs a technician, it also pays for my beer money and a meal a month, and the little that's left goes into my paypal account in case big shit hits the fan with the website.

How to say… I want hentairules to sustain itself without pumping my own money, you see the idea ? Keeping it separated (a meal a month, beer money, that, it doesn't count.)

So, no, I'm not sitting on a fortune while being picky about a video card. My finances are tight (not desperate – tight), which is why I see no reason to buy a whole PC when it's only the video card that seems close to failing :)

I may have enough money to buy a whole new PC in my savings account, but, precisely : SAVINGS account. Not "luxury spending that is not a necessity" :D

Sure, I'd get better if I replaced everything, but I'm not going to dispose of working components just because brand new better stuff is appealing.

Atomsk
Atomsk

The version he linked is for mini-itx, it's impossible for it to be almost 30cm long. But anyway, your pc looks like shit, I guess your cpu will bottleneck anything higher than a 660.

Next time, save enough money and build a pc with a decent case, a bit of cable management and dust filters.

Oliver AKA The Admin

"Next time, save enough money and build a pc with a decent case"

Well, man, I don't even remember when I bought that case. I only replace components when they are dead, this is why my PC looks like that.

But it's true that, in the future, if I need to buy a new case, there will be dust filters :(

Kurzwaltz Messer
Kurzwaltz Messer

Maybe a Geforce GT 730 1GB GDDR5 is good enough?

Oliver AKA The Admin

I'm making myself a note text file with the actual recommendations you guys are writing.
Thank you :)

Gpower
Gpower

What about a Radeon R7 260X? You can get one for may $120, and here's a review: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R7_260X/

AAGJ
AAGJ

I use one and works fine. Recommended.

Keep in mind you´re changing VGA, you have to calculate if your PSU will support.

Oliver AKA The Admin

I'm making myself a note text file with the actual recommendations you guys are writing.
Thank you :)

The back of the card surprised me at first, but I guess that's for dual monitors.

PC BoB
PC BoB

I can't direct you to any specific card (that would require work D:), but can offer some advice and personal experiences…

The biggest problem is the size restriction. Pretty much every card that have enough power to run that generation's new games go to the bigger category. So with that you either go for smaller new gen. cards that cost a lot or older bigger cards that are cheaper for enjoyable experience (~30 fps with low settings).

1 solution would be to buy a new case that doesn't have to be expensive but with decent space and good air flow (helps overal performance). Had also some problems with fitting my R9 290X to my old tower case (1cm more would have been fine) so I removed the HDD rack that was on the way and made a new makeshift solution. Incidently the air flow is better and there's more space now. Also you can put HDDs and SSDs pretty much anywhere as long as you remember to give HDDs some room and ventilation.

Another thing is choosing the brand you want to buy based on the games you play…
Skyrim is optimized pretty purely on NV cards and runs really nicely on them, but you will need beefy AMD card to mach that and it still isn't enough if you mod heavily (Like I do). The Witcher series is optimized to NV card too, but noticed that the 3rd runs nicely on AMD cards too (I can run on ultra with all that fancy NV hair simulation and light refraction algorithms with pretty much only on AMD clock speeds). If I remember correctly all the rest of the games you mentioned are for AMD optimized engines.

So to summarize: Bigger card = moar power AND new gen. > old gen. SO old gen. big card ~ new gen. small card

And when counting FPSs… NV optimized game engine runs better on old + small NV card than new small AMD card that has to use pure processing power on most "NV only" options.

Good air flow really helps btw and so does keeping your case clean. Parts won't heat as much and won't therefore drop their clock speeds automatically down. Instead you can bump up the speed even with stock fans a little.

Won't even talk about price… You can find really good cards for really cheap or absurdly expensive, just have to look. I just put them in categories: HTPC < Borderline performer (Gaming) < Low Settings < Medium Settings < Ultra < Don't even bother.

PS. Wrote this practically sleeping so might be talking out of my ass on something.. don't think so tho. Been playing The Witcher 3 way too much :D

Oliver AKA The Admin

Your comment was in the spam folder, I just restored it, thank you :)

Regarding your feedback, well, it's true a new case would be cool, but I don't want to buy one now, because my case is still fully functional, because my finances are tight, and more generally speaking, It would be a luxury spending, not a necessary spending.
I'm only up to replacing the graphical card because I need to, that's all ^^

I may go with the GF GTX 750Ti, as things are…

Besbin
Besbin

If you have access to newegg you can easily buy some low profile GT 730 card for around $100.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Su

But I recommend doing something like a donation run and invest in a new system. Nowadays you can buy a really decent one one just around $1k which might not be that big of a deal if people here chip in.

BTW this weekend is the memorial weekend in the US so you might be able to get some good deal out of it e.g.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N

Also found a French site with some decent stuffs I think
http://www.pc-look.com/boutik/Cat_GeForce-GT-740_

Oliver AKA The Admin

A donation drive ? For a whole PC ?

Weird idea O_o

I sure wouldn't hate the principle, but I have no idea how me, a French man, could run it, much less aggregate help from people from various countries, all the while preserving my anonimity (something I care about ^^).

Plus, I don't think I'd collect enough, huhu, too bad :D

*

I'm making myself a note text file with the actual recommendations you guys are writing.
Thank you :)

I'll be buying from French websites only, for safety. What if the norms differ at some point, or what if there are problems with a model and I need to go through a refund. Not even mentioning shipping costs :D

There's one thing that's troubling, it's that the greater number in a video card name doesn't necessarily mean it is better or stronger.

Like, for instance, is GT740 better than GT750 ? Or 760 ? I should have to google it, maybe the 760 isn't the best, or only under certain conditions, or a less-good model may come with more RAM than the better-supposedly one…

Or there are aaaaaaaaaaall those added terms, Ti, OC (that goes for overclocking, okay, but why sell something already overclocked, does that mean the non-OC can be OC in the same manner, or is there another difference)…

That makes making comparisons (like with a gpuboss.com website) extremely hazardous :-/

DMR
DMR

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Dual-Link-Grap

These are short cards made for small towers. I wouldn't get anything less than 2gb gddr5 at this point since games are using more VRAM than ever before.

MSI does make one as well but amazons dimensions look wrong so I wont post that one.

AMD does make some cards in your price range but I would go with Nvidia just because they are lower power and would be good for your seemingly older machine.

This is max you will get with your budget unless you get a 960 on special sale? You can go less money with something like
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Profile-Graphi

Obviously the more you spend the better you get…

Oliver AKA The Admin

"the more you spend the better you get", sure, but I'm not after incredible performance, it just has to deliver enough ;)

That second link you gave, wow, that is some long card :D

The first one seems to be the model everyone is recommending…

I'm making myself a note text file with the actual recommendations you guys are writing.
Thank you :)

mulato
mulato

Salut voila j'ai deux lieu qui pourrait t'aider: http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-graphics-options-explai
le titre dit tout si ça t’intéresse.
http://www.hwcompare.com/17161/geforce-gt-430-vs-
et celui-ci compare différentes cartes graphique et t explique de manière résumée à quoi correspondent les différences. Mais toutes les cartes ne s y trouvent pas (tu pourras voir j'ai mis ta précédente carte par rapport à la gtx750 générique non OC donc un peu moins puissante normalement).

voila j'ai penser que ça pouvait t'aider à choisir et pour les boutique pour éviter que les frais de port te reviennent trop cher à moins d une promo spéciale mieux vaut acheter chez materiel.net , ldlc ou topachat.

PS: essaye de changer de boitier d abord ça te coûte pas si cher et crois moi d expérience ça fait une grosse différence (j'ai gagné 15° en passant d'un boitier comme le tiens à un boitier basique récent).
De plus tu auras plus de place pour une éventuelle carte graphique à venir et tout ton pc vivra plus longtemps et mieux : http://www.materiel.net/boitier-pc/zalman-z3-9623
bonne marque avec tout ce qu'il faut et budget raisonnable http://www.materiel.net/boitier-pc/cooler-master-
pareil.
voila j espère que ça t'auras aider un peu^^

Sorry it's in french but it's too late and too long for me to translate it all :D

mulato
mulato

Ha petit détail que tout le monde semble oublier avant tout pour savoir si quelque chose va tourner dans ton pc il vaut mieux mettre ta config en entier (carte mère, ram , CPU, ET ALIM) et oui une alim trop vielle ne tiendra peut être pas (je tournais sur du 400 W no name ce qui était dangereux) donc il faut la marque et la puissance de l alimentation pour être sur.

Je viens de regarder le mieux que tu puisse avoir pour 150 euro c'est une gtx 750/750 ti chez Nvidia ou une R7 260X chez Radeon. Personnellement j'ai une Radeon dont je suis très satisfait plus que ma précédente Nvidia mais bon c'est différent à toi de voir le mieux parmi ces 2 gammes.

Oliver AKA The Admin

On dirait, oui, que les avis pointent sur 750/ti ou R7 260x… On verra, pour l'instant, je note tout, et je lis au fur et à mesure, merci vraiment pour l'aide constructive, Mulato :)

Perso, j'ai 500W noname ("Advance") à la maison, en principe ça va, mais c'est vrai que j'ai 4 disques durs, 3 en SATA, un en SSD.

Il y a un moyen de savoir combien de jus "de libre" on peut se permettre de consommer en plus, tu saurais, peut-être ? O_o

@VaizardnoSekai

Don't get a GTX 750, go for the GTX 750Ti wich is at your current price range like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N… but this isn't a top tier card and will get you at most mid-high settings 1080p/60fps in most games. Don't get Nvidia GT series has those aren't meant for gaming.

Finally i would recommend you to increase your budget to 250€, you can get some good bang for your buck cards at that price range that would last you for a couple years.

@VaizardnoSekai

Oh and AMD is generally cheaper than Nvidia so you might wanna look at their cards also. (I personally prefer Nvidia).

DMR
DMR

Correct. Definitely make sure its a 750TI. I linked one in my post up some to an evga single fan (short card) on amazon. The 750ti is much better than the regular 750.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Thank you Vaizard!

You know, even being able to play with decent quality in full 1080p, which is my monitor's resolution (1920×1080), with 60 fps, would be like a miracle come true, to me ^^

My budget won't go at 250$, sorry, though.

Lastly, I can't find the info, why is the 750 Ti supposed to be so much better than the non-Ti version ?

@VaizardnoSekai

Ti version is an official upgraded version realeased months later after the normal GTX X50, X60, X70, X80. Usually it's cooler, consumes less energy, has better performance (higher clock speeds, more CUDA cores, more VRAM sometimes..) generally it's an improved version of a standard Nvidia release.

A good exemple was the GTX 780 who was weaker then GTX TITAN in terms of gaming but then was improved has GTX 780Ti and was better then the TITAN (for gaming), since it had stronger clock speeds and some other stuff.

@VaizardnoSekai

Oh and here game/synthetic benchmarks of the GTX 750Ti (the basic one, so any variant is better since it's OC and has better cooling). http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-7http://www.game-debate.com/news/?news=16906&g

Oliver AKA The Admin

Huhu, too bad, it's not making a comparison with the R7 260x in the chart on the first page ^^

Well, lots of reading, thank you :)

baubadan
baubadan

i'm voting for gtx750ti, runs nice in my 6 years old pc.

Oliver AKA The Admin

/Hug! Another person with old stuff :D

So, yeah, the gtx 750 Ti looks popular…

oldbrokenhands
oldbrokenhands

Don't have much experience with video cards on Windows machines, just know that in my personal experience, AMD Radeons are a little easier to work with than NVIDIAs GeForce.

I have a GeForce 960 that I got on Amazon for almost $200, and I bought a Radeon R7770 for my older six core video editing machine. I can play most of the games I bought on Steam, but the latest game I've tested on both rigs is Resident Evil 5 and the Batman Arkham series.

I've got an old Radeon HD 3870 that's just collecting dust, but I don't know if it's powerful enough for your gaming needs.

Oliver AKA The Admin

I'm not going for max settings in top recent games anyway, it's not what I'm after :)

That said, I don't quite what yo mean, Hands, with "a little easier to work with" ?

oldbrokenhands
oldbrokenhands

I got an Intel/Nvidia rig because I heard the video cards have better Linux support, but so far I'm running into a problem where everytime Ubuntu does a base update I have to reinstall the driver.

On my AMD rig, I've installed the proprietary driver once, and it works no matter what.

As for performance, both work pretty well for my needs, on Windows and Linux.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Haa, I see.

Well, not very relevant to my case, as I'm not using Linux for the moment.

Last time I was actively using Nux as my main OS, that ended in 2005, I was with Mandrake (become Mandriva), and every few days X failed to start because of something with my video card, and once every few months even "startx" wouldn't do the job and I would have to deinstall – reinstall the proprietary graphical driver from the command line. Brrrr :D

Part time commie
Part time commie

Les cartes recommandées par les gens semblent très bonnes, pour une carte à budget et petite je recommanderai la GTX 750ti. J'ai vu des gens se monter des PC vraiment pas chère avec du usager, donc peut-être trouveras-tu ton bonheur dans cela.

Si tu n'est pas certain de ce que tu fais tu peux toujours me contacter, ça fait parti de mon travail et je te fait ça gratuitement pour tous les bons posts que tu nous fournis. Benchmarks, conseils et tout! : )

Bonne chance!

Part time commie
Part time commie

Après quelques recherches, le meilleur modèle pour gtx 750ti devrait être celui ci : https://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G

J'ai acheté une EVGA récemment et je suis plus que satisfait. Elle devrait être un peu supérieur à celle de MSI avec sa cadence légèrement plus rapide.

Désolé, je connais pas les sites français donc je ne peux t'en recommandé.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Hoooo, encore un FR :D

Merci de la proposition d'aider :)

Pour l'instant, je m'orienterais vers une 750 Ti ou une R7 260. Selon toi, il y a un truc important à savoir à leur sujet ?

Un peu plus haut, je me demandais si l'on peut, en outre, savoir à quel point on peut se permettre d'augmenter sa consommation d'énergie. Dans ma tour, j'ai une alim 550W noname ("Advance"), ce qui devrait amplement suffire… sauf que j'ai tout de même trois disques SATA et un disque SSD, et occasionellement un HDD externe sur rack. Aucune idée de si ça m'impose une très économe 750 (Ti ou non) ou pas ^^

Part time commie
Part time commie

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R7-260X-vs-GeForce

La GTX 750ti serait meilleur dans tous les cas, la version de base de la 750ti à une cadence légèrement inférieure à la 260 mais la version de la 750 que je t'ai envoyé à une cadence booster qui dépasse celle de la 260 ce qui la rend encore meilleur!

Je serait le premier à te dire de ne pas te fier seulement aux spécifications et d'essayé de trouver des tests réels pour comparaison, mais encore là il semble que la 750ti gagne. Elle utilise aussi moitier moins d'énergie et serait donc un meilleur choix vue l'énergie disponible.

Il est aussi important d'avoir un bon power supply, un de mauvaise qualité pourrait avoir une tension non constante et causé des problèmes de performances et dans le pire des cas une décharge qui grille ton système.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqThn3C-zg4

La 750ti était reconnue pour sa faible demande en énergie donc elle en demande peut-être moins que ton ancienne, mais je ne pourrait te dire si ça va rentrer dans ton budget d'énergie.

Bonne chance!

Oliver AKA The Admin

J'ai eu TRES peur quand j'ai vu les 1400€ annoncés :D
Moui, ça serait donc plutôt la 750 Ti (quoique je ne sais toujours pas vraiment en quoi elle est mieux que la pas Ti.)

J'ai un peu cherché chez d'autres marchands, et, dis, tu as idée de ce que peut "cacher" la mention de "produit d'occasion" (retour, échange, etc) chez LDLC ?

Parce que là on gagne 50€ sur la GTX 750 Ti : http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00171690.html

mulato
mulato

alors l'alim à l'air suffisante malgré qu'elle soit no name (à pense à changer quand le budget te le permettra avec un nouveau boitier aussi ;).

Et la mention produit d'occasion (à moins que ce soit tout simplement une promos générale sur un modèle ) signifie généralement que c'est une carte déjà utilisée/déballée soit pour un test, soit elle proviens d un particulier qui l a renvoyé pour réparation ou après avoir changé d avis. Dans ces cas là ils sont obligé de le spécifié et pour les vendre ils diminuent le prix.

Le "Ti" signifie simplement que c'est une amélioration d'un modèle. Imagine les cartes sont des modèles 1.0 les Ti sont les 2.0 puis viendra la gamme suivante. donc une 750 Ti sera simplement plus puissante qu une 750 et dans certains aspect meilleure qu une 760 qui est le modèle de base au dessus.

Pour la consommation électrique je ne retrouve plus le lien que j utilisais mais les HDD ne consomment pas tellement que ça du moment que tu n as pas plein de ventilo, de led et un système de watercooling ou une carte graphique à 300€==>900€
ça devrait aller :D mais c'est vrai que les no name sont un peu dangereuses (advance n est pas vraiment une no name mais c'est une marque peu fiable quand même ^^.

@Part time commie tu travaille où si je peux me permettre ? Ca doit être génial comme bouleau mais jamais trouvé une opportunité surtout sans formation officielle spécifique :D

@Olivier voila la carte EVGA que Part time commie proposait http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/evga-gefo
elles ne sont pas vendues par ldlc
et sur ldlc voila les modèle qui correspondent à toi de voir les prises et les tailles ou ventilateur/performances que te conviennent le mieux: http://www.ldlc.com/informatique/pieces-informati

PS: OC signifie overclocked si qui est très répandu mnt, c'est donc la revendeur(msi, asus, EVGA, ..) qui overclock le modèle d origine en usine donc plus puissante ^^

Voila j espère que ça t'aura aider

mulato
mulato

"To be frank, I don't see why sell something overclocked if the non-OC model can be OCed, see the idea "
C'est simple beaucoup de gens veulent le faire mais ne savent pas le faire donc le revendeurs décide de le faire pour éviter des accidents et le vendre un peu plus cher au passage (généralement l amélioration n'est pas exceptionnelle) mais c'est toujours ça de gagné :D

"You're making me moved, telling you consider me as a friend you haven't met yet. I don't have the proper words. Thank you, really."

On a passé tellement de temps ici parfois juste à répondre aux sondages (sympa) ou à discuter que ça créé forcément une certaines atmosphère amicale :D

Oliver AKA The Admin

=)

Tiens, sinon, j'ai updaté mon post avec les détails de mon hardware. J'ai juste oublié de mentionner le lecteur de disquettes, mais lui je l'ai débranché un jour au début de la précédente décennie, il ne compte pas, il est encore présent parce que cette saleté est coincée, je n'arrive pas à l'enlever :D

Si je puis te demander (j'ai aussi posé la question à d'autres personnes dans le post, désolé si c'est redondant), sais-tu s'il y a une forte évolution tarifaire à prévoir dans le relativement court terme, pour cette carte ?

Je m'explique : je ne connais pas le marché des cartes graphiques, peut-être y a-t-il des moments dans l'année où sortent les nouveaux modèles, et les anciens modèles chutent brutalement en prix. Ou, va savoir, l'effet inverse, faudrait-il craindre une remontée du prix de la GTX 750Ti…

Part time commie
Part time commie

Mon boulot n'est pas de monter des PC. Je suis développeur te j'adore l'optimisation de systèmes, je dois donc connaître comment fonctionnent les PC en général. J'ai beaucoup travaillé avec les cartes graphiques pour faire du calcul ou du rendu et j'ai aussi récemment construit un PC et mit le mien à jours, donc je suis à jours sur le matériel. C'est une genre de convergence si tu veux : P.

Tu pourrais probablement te partir un petit magasin d'informatique si tu aime ça, y'as un gars pas loin de chez nous qui a fait ça et il semble que les affaires roulent pour lui.

Part time commie
Part time commie

La ti a plus de coeurs et te sort donc une plus grande quantité de pixels plus rapidement. Elle doit aussi avoir autre choses, mais je n'ai pas trop creusé.

J'ai trouvé ces sites qui vend la carte que j'ai suggéré :
http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/cartes-grap
http://www.hardwareversand.de/fr/2048+MB/153550/E
http://www.amazon.fr/EVGA-GTX750TI-Graphique-GeFo

Après une recherche rapide, il semble que certaines personnes aient des problèmes avec les trucs d'occasion sur ton site. Tu perd une grosse garantie du manufacturier aussi.

Personnellement, je me sert de monde PC souvent et j'aime bien mettre les quelques dollars de plus pour avoir quelques frames de plus qui donnent souvent une expérience plus agréable au final. C'est pour cela que je prendrais la EVGA Superclocked. Fait quand même attention à ce que ton power supply ne fasse pas parti du problème!

Tu devrais rouler avec ca ;)

P.S. Désolé du délai mais je suis au travail et j'ai dû passé la sécurité car, tu ne le devinera pas, ton site contient de la pornographie!

Oliver AKA The Admin

Merde, y'a du pr0n chez moi ! JE ME SUIS FAIT HAXER !! :D

Merci du commentaire, et désolé, il était en boîte à spam !

Oliver AKA The Admin

Ah, je vais te poser la question à toi aussi !

Si je puis te demander (j'ai aussi posé la question à d'autres personnes dans le post, désolé si c'est redondant), sais-tu s'il y a une forte évolution tarifaire à prévoir dans le relativement court terme, pour cette carte ?

Je m'explique : je ne connais pas le marché des cartes graphiques, peut-être y a-t-il des moments dans l'année où sortent les nouveaux modèles, et les anciens modèles chutent brutalement en prix. Ou, va savoir, l'effet inverse, faudrait-il craindre une remontée du prix de la GTX 750Ti…

Part time commie
Part time commie

Difficile à dire pour une chute prix. Elles tombent généralement de prix quand la génération suivante sort, la 8xx dans notre cas, je ne m'attenderais donc pas à une autre puisque nous sommes rendu à 9xx.

Elles montent très rarement de prix, généralement quand la demande est grande ce qui ne sera pas le cas pour la 750ti. On en a vu une pour le haut de gamme pour miner le bitcoin lorsqu'il était à son apogé.

Bref, je ne vois pas changements de prix dans un future proche bon ou mauvais, mais on sait jamais en économie!

mulato
mulato

@ Olivier Je ne suis plus trop les prix et sortie depuis que j'ai construit mon pc et acheter ma nouvelle carte graphique il y a 6 mois donc je ne serais pas te dire mais ce que je sais c'est qu'en été pendant les vacances il y a les soldes informatiques donc il y a des chance que tu trouve de bonne offre meme si souvent ce sont les cartes plus cher qui sont en promo mais on sait jamais :D
Pour l'alim ça devrais passer elle consomme rien et le reste de ta config (HDD et autres )ne consomme vraiment rien donc ça devrait passer.

Le lien de la carte au cas où: http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/evga-gefo

@Part time commie Ok ça à l'air sympa comme job pour ce que est du magasin j'ai pas les financement et il y a déjà beaucoup de magasin d informatique dans le coin malheureusement peu sont de vrai magasin avec un large choix de composant ou une vraie connaissance dans le domaine .

Oliver AKA The Admin

Merci encore !

Tant que j'y suis, j'y pense, une suggestion qui serait bieng, pour un magasin d'info, si/puisque vous avez des contacts : une alternative électrique aux bonbonnes d'air comprimé à 10€ qui ne durent pas longtemps.
Un petit compresseur (pas un énorme machin façon bête de puissance, un moteur de gros sèche-cheveux ! :D )avec embout fin, éventuellement un filtre pour soit déshumidifier soit éviter d'électrifier là où l'on souffle.

Sérieux, un machin pareil, même à 50€, je l'achète, je sais que je l'ai rentabilisé en moins d'un an. Je suis sûr que ça se vendrait =)

Part time commie
Part time commie

Je suis très loin de la France, je ne pourrais pas te recommandé de magasin.

Je te recommande quand même toujours cette version de la 750ti! Et tu te trompe pas habituellement avec amazon. Je préfère toujours encourager d'autre monde que les gros revendeurs mais j'en connais aucun en France : http://www.amazon.fr/EVGA-GTX750TI-Graphique-GeFo

quelques euros de plus ca peut faire une différence.

Pour la pompes j'utilise un gros truc de quincaillerie mais tu pourrais peut-être t'en sortir avec une pompe pour "air brush". Regarde sur les sites de quincailleries de ton coin

Oliver AKA The Admin

16€ de trop quand même, quand on trouve d'autres 750 Ti dans les 153€, avec, là, seulement un dépassement de 3€ ^^

mulato
mulato

J en connais un:
Hurricane Canless Air System
coute +/- 100$ donc un peu cher meme si pas mal d option différente (kit etc)
le probleme etant qu il faut pas abimer un composant et attention à l electricité statique du aux brosse utilisé pour nettoyer les recoins.
http://www.canlessair.com/store/products/34/Indus

je l'ai jamais essayé je sais pas du tout ce que ça vaut donc attention :D

Oliver AKA The Admin

Oh punaise

OH PUNAISE

Cela diviserait au moins (au moins !) par cinquante le coût d'un dépoussiérage complet O_o

MULATO MERCIIIIII :D

Je me fais offrir ce truc pour Noël :D

Part time commie
Part time commie

Maddave, plus bas dans les commentaires, à suggéré une 960 qui pourrait être également être un bon choix si tu veux mettre 50-60 euros de plus et elle viens avec the witcher 3 (qui vaut le prix de la différence).

EVGA en fait même un modèle de petite taille à 4gb de mémoire mais je n'arrive pas à la trouvé.
http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/evga-gefo

Oliver AKA The Admin

Nan, là, trop cher :D

Je n'ai jamais eu l'intention de jouer à TWIII high ou même medium, c'était pour plaisanter, la mention dans le post, hein.

Et je suis parfaitement à l'aise avec l'idée de ne PAS avoir une carte de gamer haut de gamme, ça n'est pas pour moi, pas de soucis.

Part time commie
Part time commie

Je sais très bien que tu plaisantais, mais je me suis dis que tu allais peut-être te le prendre pour jouer sur n'importe quel graphiques que tu atteindrais et donc que tu aurais une meilleur carte pour le même prix au final.

Tout l'honneur est pour toi si tu t'en tien à ton budget!

Pour le compresseur à air, j'ai vu des petits compresseur à 60$ pour pneus de voitures. Peut-être que ça ferait ton affaire, va voir en quincaillerie et demande à essayé si possible. ;)

Oliver AKA The Admin

Après, faut voir aussi si ça peut aller avec du matériel informatique. Est-ce que je ne vais pas projeter des microgoutelettes d'huile du moteur de l'engin, ou le supercharger en électricité statique… C'est ça qui était rassurant avec ton machin, ça mentionne explicitement que ça peut bomber les ordinateurs :)

Part time commie
Part time commie

Tu as raison, il y a des règles à suivre pour que ca soit sécuritaire pour le PC. Je suis pas un expert en pompes ou en nettoyage de matériel informatique, mais tu peux tout savoir de nos jours avec internet ;). Je peux t'en dire long sur l'optimisation et comment la matériel fonctionne par-contre!

Bonne chance encore dans tes choix.

mulato
mulato

haha content d’avoir pu t’aider pour ça :D ou sinon pour les cartes graphique si l autre est trop cher voici ce que je peux te proposer sachant que la msi à l’air plus bruyante mais bon après ça reste 150 euros forcément si les gens se mettent à jouer à des gros jeux elles chauffent et les ventilos tournent au max donc bon faut voir :D

Par ordre de prix décroissant sachant que les perfs ne change pas trop Gainward => Msi => Gigabyte chez les deux revendeurs:

http://materiel.net/carte-graphique/gainward-gefo
http://ldlc.be/fiche/PB00162195.html
http://materiel.net/carte-graphique/msi-geforce-g
http://ldlc.be/fiche/PB00162199.html
http://materiel.net/carte-graphique/gigabyte-gefo
http://ldlc.be/fiche/PB00175629.html

Elles sont toutes petites assez pour ton boitier et la différence de perf est quasi inexistante donc voila à toi de choisir selon ton budget par rapport aux frais de port et garantie etc. ;)

PS: la Gigabyte chez ldlc est à 140 euros mais avec la garantie tu devrais arriver à 152 euros je crois donc je pense qu’elle conviendrais mieux à ton budget.

PS bis: n’oublie pas de vérifier la connectique de ton écran ça serait dommage de devoir acheter un adaptateur après meme si ça coute pas si cher ;)

Oliver AKA The Admin

Amusant, le dernier lien… je constate que c'est en .be, donc je remplace par .fr par curiosité… et le prix change de deux euros, il chute à 138.95€. Il doit y avoir une taxe quelque-part ^^

Merci des liens :)

J'ai édité ton commentaire pour forcer le moteur des commentaires à cesser de casser les hyperliens, il avait transformé tout en sorte de soupe de HTML.
Et si je dois en prendre une, ça sera sans doute la dernière, la Gigabyte GV-N75TOC-2GL – GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2 Go . Même avec les 7€95 de garantie pour être couvert 2 ans, son prix fait la différence ^^

Quoique, c'est marqué "low profile", c'est vrai qu'elle est minuscule, la carte O_o

mulato
mulato

haha désolé le site se met automatiquement en .be et oui on paye un peu plus cher :D

Ben j'espère que tu as de quoi faire ton choix :D le jour où tu voudras remplacé quelque chose d autre on est là ;)

Oliver AKA The Admin

Tiens, je pense à quelque-chose, dis.

(Rebonjour! Cela faisait un bail ^^)

Là, j'attends les soldes d'été avec une machine qui a du mal (faut plus demander grand-chose à ma CG, windows, OK, mais Oblivion ou tout machin avide de carte graphique comme si je veux émuler des jeux, faut aimer les glitches-crash), je me prépare à faire mon achat… et voilà que je me demande un truc.

Toutes les cartes que j'ai vues, les GTX 750 Ti en tous cas, elles ont deux "étages", à l'arrière, si tu vois l'idée.
L'étage "classique", où l'on branche le moniteur. Et un étage vide au-dessus, avec juste des coques en plastique.

Heuuu… pourquoi ? O_o
Et surtout, ça peut poser problème dans ma tour ?

Au-dessus de l'emplacement de ma carte graphique, si l'on pense en termes de sorties arrière, il y a un emplacement au-dessus, encore fermé par une langue de métal, mais je peux dévisser la vis tenant en place cette bande.

Donc je me dis que, en principe, ça devrait être bon… mais sait-on jamais, je préfère mentionner le sujet ^^

(en espérant qu'il y a envoi de notifications par mail pour les nouveaux commentaires… Bah, on verra bien :D

mulato
mulato

Oui j'ai cocher l'envoi de notification :D
tu parles bien de ça : http://gyazo.com/ddf63399a136fe228efd516b3f59ba32

Si oui alors c'est simple les ventilo aspirent l'air à l intérieur du boitier et l éjecte pas les fentes.

Pour la langue de métal c'est prévu pour donc suffit de l enlever si tu n as rien dans le chemin de la CG ce qui ne devrait pas être le cas il n'y aura aucun problème.

PS: tu saurais me redonné le modèle ou la fiche produit de ta carte mère juste pour que je vérifie quelque chose (pas d inquiétude rien de grave mais on sait jamais ^^)

Oliver AKA The Admin

Hop, copy-pasta du post lui-même :
FYI, the rest of my hardware is (a) motherboard (MSI Z68-G43 G3 MS7750 1.0), (b) CPU (Intel G860) socket 1155LGA, 2×4 Go DDR3 Crucial PC3-12800, 3 Sata disks, 1 SSD disk, a 500W “Advance” PSU.

Merci de la confirmation :)

mulato
mulato

Ok pas de soucis au niveau de la CM ^^
profite bien de ta future CG ^^

Oliver AKA The Admin

Pas celle-là, là on tape dans les 160€, mais on trouve des 135+ sur Amazon, les soldes d'été arrivent… Je peux la jouer raisonnable d'ici là, ou au pire me rabattre sur la CG de secours qu'on peut me prêter à Lille s'il y a décès définitif avant ça ^^

Merci des confirmations :)

Oliver AKA The Admin

Ah, tiens…

Tu vois une raison aux 24€ d'écart entre http://www.amazon.fr/Pny-Geforce-Gtx-750-2gb/foru
et http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/pny-gefor
?

Même numéro de série, même photo…

Ou alors c'est la norme sur internet, de telles variations de prix O_o

mulato
mulato

Disons que c'est amazon ^^
Ils ont parfois de très bonnes offres on sait pas toujours trop pourquoi :D
J'ai pas l impression que ce soit des modèles différents mais je dois t avouer que je suis plus tout frais donc j'ai pu rater un truc :D

Oliver AKA The Admin

HAN, 104€ mais 2-3 centimètres de trop !
http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00170665.html

Vivement les soldes d'été !

Sinon, ça y est, je suis sur la carte graphique de secours. Allez, encore douze jours pour les soldes, faut patienter, ça en vaut (j'espère ^^) la peine.

mulato
mulato

On ne sait jamais malheureusement mais je te souhaite bonne chance avec les soldes

Pour la carte comme tu peux voir elle a déjà été utilisée et est dispo qu en magasin donc à toi de voir

Lewder
Lewder

It belongs in a museum!

Oliver AKA The Admin

Yep. My desk.

Umbal
Umbal

I have a recommendation :GO PLAY FALLOUT 3!
For me the wasteland felt more "alive" than skyrim`s. Plus, there you get to meet Moira. She`s soooo funny. And adorable.

jbk
jbk

Here are my recommendations:
1. EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti https://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G
2. EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti Superclocked http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G-
both options fit your budget and length available.
And a final recommendation, you should invest in a good case with dust filters and cable management, not right now but in the near future, because not only improve the appearance of your computer but also prolong the life of your components.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll read it to see what's so special about the "overclocked" mention.

To be frank, I don't see why sell something overclocked if the non-OC model can be OCed, see the idea :D

About my super ugly old dusty case : I know, I know :(

But I'm very far from rolling on money, and I only will spend money on necessary spending, not luxury spending.

Dust filters look super sexy as a principle, though. I didn't even know this kind of thing existed before I made the present post on hentairules.

Cable Management ? Only because it's sexier, meh :D My case doesn't care about sexiness, it's way beyond it ;)

jbk
jbk

I understand your point, almost no one will see the inside of your computer but the cable management is not specifically to make your PC more sexy also gives you better airflow which would prevent gather dust inside and improve the life of your components like the video card.

But the important thing here is that soon you gonna be able to keep playing your video games, so enjoy yourself

Orangu
Orangu

The Nvidia GTX 750 does list itself as a 4K card, which is pretty impressive for the price. It will certainly fit in your rig, and is in your price range. Unfortunately, I have no experience with it myself. So whether it is better or worse than the 750TI will have to be left to better minds than I have. :)

However, I like the idea from Besbin about a donation run. I personally would commit $20 (US) to such an endeavor. I have been a lurker on your site for years, so I believe it is the least I could do. I certainly help my friends here in Colorado like this, and see no reason I shouldn't help you as well. I think of you as a friend I just haven't met yet.

Oliver AKA The Admin

You're making me moved, telling you consider me as a friend you haven't met yet. I don't have the proper words. Thank you, really.
Here, have a virtual man-hug :)

The idea of a donation run seems very weird to me, to be frank. Sure, it's compelling, what if it gathered enough money to buy myself a new PC, wahoo. But, well, it's also – maybe it's a matter of education – making me feel bad, a bit guilty.
And then, I have no ida how something like that could work ^^ I want to preserve my anonimity (seriously, it's the internet, I have a porn blog, I have kids, I don't know what I'll be doing in ten years, my public image must stay safe for work at all costs), which immediately discards any paypal operation. Maybe there are shops accepting funded campaigns, but then it should be a French one, accepting foreigners…
Lots of complications, for hardly a chance to get more than a few donations ^^

General Hentai
General Hentai

Good luck! A good resource is: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphi

Tom's thinks well of the GTX 750Ti, though they point out that more power is available for not much more from some of the Radeon cards.

I've had good success with both AMD Radeon and Nvidia cards, so I'm in neither camp, though I'm now depressed that games like the new Witcher 3 are mocking my 5770 card. Sigh.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Thanks for the input, General !

I think the previous links I clicked cover most of the article, but I'll read it more carefully now, for safety.

That said, I still can't figure the difference between GTX 750 and 750 Ti ^^

(maybe someone else will have replied about it in one of the many similar comments I made ^^)

Dimitri
Dimitri

Dimensions de la carte 187 x 129 x 42 mm
http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/gigabyte-

Oliver AKA The Admin

Noté, archivé, pour base d'étude. Merciiiii =)

Mederic64
Mederic64

I think it's possible to find a somewhat decent video card for 150€ and within the width you specified. Can't help you more than that atm.

Otherwise I would recommend changing the case, but case + video card will get the price at > 150.

Anyway, dust your case man, ffs.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Mederic : three days before the photo, I used half of a full airdust bottle to take dust out of my case. It's coming back :(

And at around 10€ per pressurized air bottle, it's quickly costing money, dang.

kuku
kuku

definitely 750ti. most of them is short because it only uses 60watt of power, which means you most likely doesn't have to change your psu. and lower power consumption means it operates cooler, and will be able to breath in your dusty box (seriously man, don't you have an air blower or something? or maybe go to workshop around neighborhood and ask them to help you blow the dust away). and seems that your psu does have a 6pin pci-e power in spare, a gxt960 should last you for a while, although it is closer to $200. there are several gtx960 that is short in dimension, ftm. but most 750ti, is, short.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Noted and all, thanks for the feedbacks :)

About the dust, I emptied half a bottle of pressurized air to clean my case just three days before the photo, and now the dust is mostly back already, it sucks, but I'm not going to blow my case everyday. The big blowing I made at that time, that was like 5€ worth of canned pressurized air, the cost quickly goes up with this O_o

JackAss
JackAss

I use this site to start for recommendations
http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-video-car

Watch your power supply and the overall power draw. If you get a card and your power supply isn’t good enough, you’ll fry your new card and system.

Darrianscard
Darrianscard

I would recommend XFX R9 270x 2G, I got mine for 150$ (plus free games) last year, but you must have 2 x 6pin power connectors, you did not say what power-supple you have(500 watts min). I like this card for a few reason, one its 256-bit memory, now you could go with R7 265 or a R9 270 with no X and still have the 256-bit, but no lower, also its got a good ratio of (1280) Stream Processors. Not sure of its length.

Could you not move a hard drives to clear some space for a card?

Honestly, it would be much better to buy a cheap case and a solid power-supple and then get a good card to go in it. Plus I noticed you have a few empty ram slots there. I understand the need to stick to a budgets, however if you have time, saving a few dollars a week for 4-6 months could net you a much better system.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N… cheap case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N… PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N… great card for price169 -20 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N… ok card for 110, 7.8" inch

(I have had good luck with xfx, not to say they are the best)

Oliver AKA The Admin

Thanks for the feedback :)

I can't buy a new case (my finances are tight, and it's against my principles to make luxury spending of money (replacing what is still working well), even when it's something very desirable (I technically could pay it with money in my savings account, but, precisely, savings account isnt' for luxury :D).

I can't push away components for more space, more than 19 centimeters and we're growing too close to the place where from where originates the plugs of the SATA cables of my hard disks (not sure I'm using the right words, but hoping you get the idea). I want to keep that location off vibrations and heat from the PSU.

Regarding power usage, I'll copy-paste what I wrote above: I'm not so sure regarding my energy consumption. I have a 500W PSU, four hard disks (one ssd, 3 sata, plus an occasional external sata on an USB deck), and that's about all, save the GPU… I have yet to figure out how to "measure" if the PSU has lots of spare power to deliver…

Darrianscard
Darrianscard

I totally understand your principle about replacing whats still working, however cases never really break, so do you plan on keeping it forever? Just a thought.

I see your looking at NV and from what I have seen yea the 750it is the way to go, I know you wanted to know what the difference is with ti and no ti, really only a couple of things; one it has more shader cores, from 512 to 640, texture cores, from 32 to 40, its memory is faster, and supports 2 gig. This might be your best option because NV does use a lot less power.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N… 139 – 20 rebate

I do believe they make sata wires that at the connector turn 90 degrees to make it lower profile. Not sure how cheap you can find those, but that might give you a little more space.

The ati I listed above in previous post, the one for 169 is the max bang for your buck, and that was with a 20$ mail in rebate back so it 150 in the end.

the one for 129 – 20 rebate is good and i believe will fit but very very tight, perhaps to tight for your liking.

Just FYI most HDD use 5 to 15 watts, with an average of 10, so 4 HDD use about 40 watts. SSD not sure about them, I believe its less than HDD around 3 to 5 watts.

I hope this info help was rambling a bit, sorry.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Haaa, yes, now, I see. Small updates, but since now you’ll find Tis at the price of non-Ti, hey, why not.

Thank youDarrianscard :)

You’re making a point, with the idea that cases never really die. And I could go with the idea that adding dust filters to a well-arranged new case would also prolungate the life expectency of all the hardware.
I’ll think of a new case when I must replace either my CPU or my graphical card, and for one of the two it turns out there aren’t anymore easily modern-day compatible ones. Yeah, that’s a nice way to view it ^^

At the present time, my motherboard (MSI Z68-G43 G3 MS7750 1.0) and my CPU (Intel G860) are doing fine, I hope that will last…

Oliver AKA The Admin

I stopped after playing for 30 minutes.

That minuscule pipboy window didn't allow to see many things at once.

You couldn't sort items by this, or that.

The quests were a pain in the ass to read.

And there were no miraculous mods to help. Only minor improvements to the UI, minuscule improvements.

Man, when you previously played Skyrim with the god-sent SkyUI, how can anyone tolerate that fucking PipBoy ?!?

Umbal
Umbal

A fanboy can! :)

One can sort items weapons/clothes/meds etc on the bottom of the pip-boy-screen. It`s not that hard once you get used to it. But then again i`m not that spoiled by SkyUI.

Oh well. I can`t force you to give it a chance…yet!

riau
riau

maybe u can consider replace the hdd place if u don't want get new case, from 3'5 to 5'25
example : http://bit.ly/1HwoVmP.
and u can get this product alike more cheaper, I can't find yet at web. but at my place about $ 1-2

so you can get more space for graphic card. :)

note: assumption if u dont use dvd drive

riau
riau

if possible: maybe u need tell all ur specification mor like motherboard or vga.

if u have more pcie we can consider got same vga for amd crossfire or sli

Oliver AKA The Admin

Nope, can't do that. These are the SATA origin plugging places that are in the way, in the 22nd centimeter, and between them is a mayhem of cables and such.

riau
riau

last option: clear the cable.
move/ modify it to back (not direct), I seen some empty space at bottom left of case.
if needed try to buy sata & power converter to add cables length or
use cable with 90 degree (L) head. not expensive I think.

goodluck then,
and regards.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Thanks Riau, but I'll leave those cables in peace. If I start replacing tons of components, that would be going against the global plan to only replace one thing at a time :)

There are good matches with things as they are now, so I guess things will be cool :)

heaa74
heaa74

I'm sorry but you need more room for a new card for Witcher 3. Even those cards that can give you the basic requirements for it are bigger then your space will allow. You also might want to check how powerful your PSU is, I just got a Radeon 290X just for Witcher 3. I have an 800W Coolermaster PSU & it's JUST over the wattage requirements. My new 1200 PSU (modular) should be in my house today.

While on this, have you considered maybe getting a modular PSU? That may free up some space in your tower. Either that or simply build yourself a new PC, tower & all. When I built mine I cannibalized more things then I thought I could (the HDDs, Disc drives, & some components). I was able to save some $500 this way.

TigerDirect & I think Newegg have some "bare bones" gaming PC builds, they're cheap but you have to apply the elbow grease. Either this or get the console version of W3.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Just saying, I was deliberately joking, about The Witcher III, I was hoping this much would be obvious, Heaa74 ;)

Laurent
Laurent

First it would help to know the country you're buying from, it make it easier to find some sale deals and help us know if we need to add shiping fees.

Secondly checking with pcpartpicker.com if your new card works with your motherboard/case/power usage is a very good idea.

Ps. I saw afeter writing my comment that you answered some of these questions in the conversation so I suggest adding this info in the main post for better view

Otaku 24/7
Otaku 24/7

late to the party, but http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-evga-gtx-750ti
£110 (about 150 euros) with a cashback offer but im sure you could find something closer to home, as this is my local shop

Otaku 24/7
Otaku 24/7

Theres a MSI one on the same site at £10/15 euros cheaper too http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-msi-gtx-750-ti

Otaku 24/7
Otaku 24/7

Power supply calculator, I always use this to check what my equipment demands from my PSU are http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorl

Oliver AKA The Admin

Woohoo, thank you !

I've been recommended : 269 W.

I'm on the safe side, it's a relief, Otaku =)

slazenberg
slazenberg

at the price range and size youre looking at a gtx 750ti or an amd r9 270

Merton
Merton

This:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00CWIOIKG

There is one at 185$, it size's 2.1 x 12 x 8.8 inches.
This is a little more than your starting price but this gc is usually more expensive.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Yep, but it's still too expensive. It's not a drama that I can't buy a one more expensive than my chosen budget allows, whatever I take, I'll be already quite content with it :)

Merton
Merton

Or this:
http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00155464.html
82€95, 111 mm x 108 mm x 35 mm

this one versus gt 430:
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R7-250X-vs-GeForce

More powerfull and not expensive! C'est gratuit coupaing (:

Sivla
Sivla

I like the idea of a donation run, but it could be difficult like you said.

Is it possible that one of the blog readers just mail you an old video card to replace your old one? It's still not super private but much easier than a donation run. You run a great blog and I'm sure people would be happy to help.

Oliver AKA The Admin

I find your suggestion even more unbelievable, Sivla, nobody's going to ship a 150 € worth video card to a complete stranger :D

I can already borrow a shitty video card from a friend having a few in a carton, in case my current card dies by surprise. Sure, it won't be enough to play games, but it will serve the desktop and give me the week or so to get a new card from a web shop, so, no worries :)

Sivla
Sivla

Oh I guess you are right. I was just imagining computer enthusiasts to have some old video cards lying around that are not worth the money to sell. A video card that is $100 new really would not sell for much used. That's not too far off from a $20 donation B)

You can call me crazy, but if I had an old video card lying, I would not mind mailing to you. You run one of the few naughty websites that don't try to kill my computer and I like your opinions, so some appreciation is due!

th0r
th0r

I would also recommend, as others have, a 750Ti since it fits your requirements. Additionally though, I would strongly recommend getting a new case. The ones they make nowadays are leaps and bounds ahead of the ones they made even half a decade ago. You can get a decent case for pretty cheap too ($20 – $50 US). It'll really help with the airflow, reducing the amount of dust that builds up in your case as well as the chance of parts failing.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Everybody's recommending a new case ^^;;

I'll buy one on the day one of the mobo/CPU dies, and I find the possible new models have become incompatible with the surviving buddy :D

Maddave
Maddave

Salut Oliver,

je rejoins tous les autres commentaires pour ce qui est de la 750Ti.
Celle-ci semble assez compacte et pourrait rentrer dans ton boitier : http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/msi-gefor… même si elle dépasse de peu ton budget.
Après, si tu as moyen de mettre un peu plus, tu pourrais opter pour une 960 comme celle-ci : http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/evga-gefo
C'est probablement le modèle que je prendrais pour remplacer mon actuelle GTX 650.
Après, je ne peux que te conseiller de changer de boitier pour en avoir un plus spacieux (et ça joue énormément sur le refroidissement et par extension, sur le silence du boitier) et l'alimentation (j'ai eu la désagréable expérience d'avoir une carte graphique instable dès qu'elle demandait beaucoup d'énergie et prendre une alimentation de meilleure qualité a rendu stable la carte).
Il me semble ne pas avoir vu les détails de ta config, notamment le CPU.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Le jour où je dois changer de CPU ou de mobo, et l'un des deux n'est plus compatible, dans ce qui se fera, avec l'ancien partenaire, disons que seulement là je changerai de boitier ^^

La 960 : trop cher. Ce n'est pas une honte de s'en tenir à un budget déterminé, non plus, je serais déjà très content avec une 750 Ti, ça serait parfaitement bon pour très longtemps :)

Je te pose la question, là, mais je vais remonter les commentaires pour la poser à un peu tout le monde, sais-tu s'il y a une forte évolution tarifaire à prévoir dans le relativement court terme, pour cette carte ?

Je m'explique : je ne connais pas le marché des cartes graphiques, peut-être y a-t-il des moments dans l'année où sortent les nouveaux modèles, et les anciens modèles chutent brutalement en prix. Ou, va savoir, l'effet inverse, faudrait-il craindre une remontée du prix de la GTX 750Ti O_o

Maddave
Maddave

Il n'y aura pas vraiment à craindre de remontée de prix pour les puces graphiques.
La 750 Ti a un peu plus d'un an et nous en sommes à la série 900, donc elle devrait baisser petit à petit jusqu'à disparaître. Je doute qu'on voit son prix baisser de 50€ d'un coup ^^
Mais tu as moyen de grapiller des euros selon où tu l'achètes (le modèle que je t'ai linké est moins cher dans quelques boutiques de MontGallet : http://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,msi-ge….

Mon optique en général est toujours de prendre un bon rapport performances / prix, quitte à mettre un peu plus cher que ce que je prévoyais dans mon budget mais pour avoir du matériel que je pourrais conserver plus longtemps avant le prochain upgrade.

Si tu regarde ce lien http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html# , tu constateras qu'actuellement, la 750 Ti et la 960 sont très bien placées et au coude à coude pour le rapport perfs / prix.

Si tu ne peux vraiment pas aller au delà de 150€ pour le budget, en ce cas bloque toi sur la 750 Ti. Ça reste le meilleur choix prix / perfs / dimensions pour ton boitier. Il ne te restera plus qu'à te mettre en chasse du Saint Graal sur les sites internet et boutiques informatiques proche de chez toi.

Merton
Merton

u didn't answer about this one:

"Or this: http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00155464.html
82€95, 111 mm x 108 mm x 35 mm

this one versus gt 430: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R7-250X-vs-GeForce….

More powerfull and not expensive! C'est gratuit coupaing (: "

It was posted as a reply by mistake.

Merton
Merton

Edit: But the 750 TI is more powerfull.

Oliver AKA The Admin

Ooops, yes.

That would be a nice choice, however, as I defined myself a 150€ budget, I would be inclined towards the more expensive but superior and less power-consuming 750 Ti :)

mvee
mvee

well, you're asking to play witcher 3. that's a very good card that will be able to handle witcher 3 just fine, unless you go down to the 750 which i think is the bare minimum.. then it wouldn't really look that good…..

Oliver AKA The Admin

Nonononononono, I was kidding about TWIII, I thought that was obvious ;)

mvee
mvee

well shit………………………
then i'll have to go back to the drawing board. I thought you were serious about witcher 3, just that you were kidding about the 4k part. lol

mvee
mvee

and for reference, I previously had a gtx 560ti 448 core and it was able to play all the games you mentioned at medium to high settings (tweak to what works for you) so if you really want, you can even go as far back as the 5xx series.

gopha kierselph
gopha kierselph

One thing to take care not to overlook is power supply considerations – any juiced-up card will likely come with some variety of …..you need a minimum of _____ watts, and recommend____ watts.
Good luck

Oliver AKA The Admin

I'm good on that side, an approximate estimation of my power usage gives 269 watts only, while my PSU theoretically delivers 500 W :)

Besides, as i'm inkling towards a 750 ti, there won't be too much additional power usage…

evangeline_tan
evangeline_tan

Just looked at your build and have some suggestions to you:
You do not need a new case. Just rearrange the HDDs positions. Since you need a certain "row" to fit your new card, just move the HDD(s) which is(are) closest to the videocard slot either one or two "levels" up or down (unless they are equipped with cooling fans). There are cheap "mounting adapters" which allow you to place an HDD at the DVD/BD bay, so you could move one or all of them there. Another is to rearrange the power cables so they are not in the way (mainboard power and HDDs/DVD/BD. Since card heigth is not an issue then any card will fit (unless you go after the "big monster" videocards).

Oliver AKA The Admin

Nah, it's not even the hard disks being in the way, it's the place on the mobo where all four SATA cables are plugged, starting at the 21st (or is it 22nd, now ? I'm starting to have doubts, I went with a security margin, so, now… oh well, let's say the 21.5st) centimeter, currently 3 centimeters away from the end of my graphical card.

It's a 2×2 locations plugs, so even cables with a 90 degree turn would be a problem.
And if I start in that direction, I won't stop changing this, or that, and end with a new case :D

Hooch
Hooch

While both AMD and NVIDIA are going to introduce new cards during the upcoming month, those cards should be high-end only so it shouldn't have much of an impact on low-end card prices.

A GTX 750ti (notice the "ti") that fits inside your case is probably your best bet for the money. You may get PS4-like performance out of it.

SL-Gundam
SL-Gundam

GTX 750 Ti is really nice card for your system

As for the price… it really depends on the next release from AMD which will come pretty soon. If the performance and price of those new cards are set a certain way Nvidia will need to change there prices as well

Oliver AKA The Admin

Won't competition only affect the new models, the most expensive things, though ?

Here, we're talking about growing old middle-to-low range hardware…

SL-Gundam
SL-Gundam

Usually cards prices are based around performance classes.

If AMD puts a far better performing card in the same performance class as Nvidia's lower performing card, nvidia will lower the pricing.

Nvidia has not made available any GTX 950 or GTX 950 Ti so the 750 Ti is still in that performance segment.

The 750 Ti uses the nvidia maxwell chipset unlike the rest of the Geforce 700 series cards (maxwell chipset is the basis for the Geforice 900 series) and could actually be called the 950 Ti