Ayashii Haha To Midara Na Oba (“Glamorous Mother and Indecent Aunt”) [English, 195 pictures], by Morris
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Well, that one had an extra-strong old-school feeling, the stories, the art, the image resolution, everything 
Here is Ayashii Haha To Midara Na Oba, 195 pages long. The first chapters are a short story arc about incest with an aunt and then a mother, while the rest of the manga is made of chapter-long stories. Most of the time this is about mother incest, sometimes aunt or stepsister incest, some times (yay! Better!) the focus will turn to adulterous housewives. Occasional shota to mention, though most of the men are of age.
I’d say the stories were dull and unworthy, however the drawings have a certain charm, sometimes practically uncensored. The women look kinda realistic (with occasional abs lines) and know what they want. Plus some rare occasional comedy.
All in all, it was an OK read, I feel, haha ^^
Credits are for AGL, Amaru007 and Johny Mnemonic from late Hentai-Enishi (chapters 1-3), and for Amoskandy for the rest of the manga. Thank you! 
By the same artist, I also share Libido In The Beaker (182 pictures), Majokko Mama (185 pictures), Hitozuma Box (Uncensored version) and Chiryou.
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Yay for cheating wives?
Have yourself a kink Oliver?
I’m becoming tolerant to more and more things.
I’m now considering that futanari is mainstream, you know. I still remember, in my early hentai days, I would call them dickgirls and feel horrified at their sight.
More seriously though, I feel that I’m not bound to judging all housewives. It’s different from dirty bitches who deliberately hurt. As long as the official partner is oblivious, I think that a bit of sin is OK in a lot of circumstances. Fidelity is an ideal that it would be selfish to try to impose on those who are unable to stick to it.
I disagree with infidelity, I am okay with non monogamy. Monogamy is one of those weird concepts that doesn’t match with human nature.
Infidelity is something I dislike because of the aspect of deceit and betrayal. You are supposed to love and care about your partner, why would you want to hurt them?
I agree it is unfair to push monogamy on those who can’t do it, but this needs to be a conversation prior to being in a serious relationship. Some people only want monogamy, and I don’t think it is unfair of them to want a partner that wants that, just as some can only be nonmon and it is isn’t unfair to find a partner okay.
However, cheating takes the consent away from the person being betrayed to accept being in that relationship, not to mention it is a great betrayal against someone you are supposed to love.
Not happy in the relationship anymore? End it and find another. At the very least discuss opening the relationship up. Don’t cheat, the aspect of lying and deceit is never right.
This discussion is as old as humanity and has little chance to be settled for good on a hentai blog.
So… we keep our cool, right ?
Still, I think you’re excessively ”pure” on this topic. So pure your attitude doesn’t fit well in the real world, and would cause more harm than good.
Isn’t there a joke about the emo kids having feelings so pure they can cut themselves with it ? Ah, no, it sounds bad. Still, I’ll borrow the concept, if your principles are so pure and so strong they only allow to see the world in black and white, they’ll cause more problems than they’ll offer solutions.
I believe that even a relation based on the principle of monogamy can be cheated upon by one of the parties as long as the other remains oblivious.
It can be a fling. It can be a secret lover that is seen, sometimes.
We all start monogamous, but then monotony settles in. And then, it’s written in our genes, the lust falls to very low levels in the couple in the long term, while regarding other persons the lust can stay very high. In some couples, there’s still an active sex life; in some others, not; and even when there’s a sex life, there can be a huge imbalance between the interest in sex of the two partners, still intense VS very tame.
At this point, some people will have it in them to decide to impose discipline among themselves and ignore it. But some other people just can’t stick to a sexless life (because that’s the thing). Being sexless is destructive for the mind of the persons who still aspire to sex, they feel harmed, crippled, reduced to less than they want… it\’s a very negative feeling, as if you\’re trampled on.
Should they break everything they built in their couple, taking the risk of a ”hey, I feel like cheating, it’s cool right ?” discussion ?
Should they live a mostly sexless life and feel they have been crippled of an essential part of them, secretly strongly resenting their less-interested partner for this ?
Or should they just go ahead and keep it secret, and feel themselves whole again ?
We can’t judge people for this, I think. Better than impose pure ideals on people, i’ts better to embrace the grayscale of real life situations.
So then why stay with someone if you are unhappy? Recent studies have shown that this is bad for children to see two parents in an unhappy relationship and it is better for parents to be split and happy, as the former will teach children that it is normal to be unhappy and that is what to accept.
Look, I will never accept cheating. Want to be with others? Unhappy with a sexless marriage? End it and find another. This is the 21st century, you don’t have to stay for family honour, family ties, titles, etc. Shouldn’t even stay in an unhappy relationship with someone for kids, recent studies have shown.
Infidelity is a lack of respect or care for your partner, and it sucks you settled for a partner that finds you feeling that way, but I will never support the aspect of cheating, due to the betrayal and lying.
If you can, well, I hope you never find out about any cheating on your end. I’ve dealt with it, never wish it upon anyone else(I also got syphilis due to her infidelity), because it is very hurtful. I assume you’ve never known that your partner cheated, and if you ever do find out, you wouldn’t be so quick to accept it.
That or you just don’t care about your partner, which is what the people who cheat feel anyways.
Quick answer: you’re making sex an essential thing.
Some relationships can still continue and be considered worthy, even with love, and yet sex is gone from it. Or isn’t present in sufficient amounts.
A relationship, this is a ton of things. Building something together, understanding each other, loving each other, loving to be with each other, and such.
Sex is one of these, but not necessarily central. How to say… Like a piece of an engine, it has to exist or else the engine won’t work, but it’s not more important than the other pieces ? Ah, my comparison sucks.
Being open about having sex outside of the couple is, as it has been pointed out, in my opinion, more of a cultural thing. Some will view it as a risk to destroy the couple, while some won’t and will think it bears only little risk to open a discussion about it.
And then we’re back to my opinion about “purity of thoughts” not being suited for a grayscale world, a small evil (lying, stealing consent) is a much lesser harm done, than the risk of causing the end of a whole relationship when the sexless partner is told he/she isn’t good enough for his/her loved one.
That makes so many unique individual circumstances. There would be only a very small number of cases in which I would feel morally allowed to shower with blame one of the persons sleeping around.
There are cases, true, like when the husband is still loving, caring, and still sexually active, however the wife is depicted as a dirty slut who, central points, feels she is hurting her husband and enjoys doing so. In cases like this, death to the whore, the husband would have been better without her. But, come on, that’s only a small minority.
I think this is all a cultural difference between us here.
Do you not discuss dissatisfaction of an aspect of a relationship in France?
In a respectful, adult relationship here, if you are unsatisfied, you bring it up to your partner. You both discuss what could be done. Could just need something to spice up the relationship, could be time to discuss opening it, could be time to end it.
Sex, like any part of a relationship, is something that each person holds differently. whatever you find important in a relationship, you find important. If you are not receiving it from your partner, and they are unwilling to try to give you, whatever you need, you end the relationship and find someone more compatible.
It seems like in France, from the picture you painted, you get dissatisfied and immediately go to an outside source, not even discussing it.
Also here, a healthy relationship will never find deception, lying, etc. Think about it. You are supposed to love your partner, they are supposed to be your best friend, why would you WANT to hurt or deceive them, and possible put them in danger with sexually transmitted diseases?
Look at it this way. If you are in a sexless marriage, wouldn’t it be a good bet that your partner is also dissatisfied? Why wouldn’t you discuss option. What you are saying is both would end up cheating on each other, why can’t discussing an open relationship work?
What I am getting is those of you in France did not marry for your partner, but for a family? You want children, etc., but you don’t want an actual connection. You also don’t hold value to personally honour, if you think things like lying, consent, and cheating are small things. To me, it shows you don’t value your partner as a person, nor do you respect them. You hold your personal desires higher than your perception of your partner. You claim you love someone, but if you truly did, you wouldn’t want to hurt. What you are actually saying, when you say you don’t want to ruin a good relationship, is you don’t want to change your way of life, and more than likely, your ease of life. Like having a homemaker, roommate, cook, extra income. You don’t actually care about them, just what they can bring you.
Now, I agree, many here in North America do cheat and betray, but as I stated, I am discussing a healthy relationship. Also, here, most infidelity still occurs with the other partner being sexually active. That is why there is a STI(Sexually Transmitted Infection) resurgence. Perhaps in France the people who cheat are different.
What actually troubles me most is that you do not view consent as something important. That is a dangerous road.
What I am also getting is a serious lack of communication in your culture. Do you really not discuss dissatisfaction in a relationship in France? I just can’t fathom that, here we very much tell each other what it wrong and what can we do to fix it.
We will never convince each other to change, we live in very different cultures, but what you have shown me is I will never be in a relationship with someone from your culture. More than likely, it would never develop far, if people are as closed off about discussions about a relationship and problems as you have described to me.
Have a good day.
“Do you not discuss dissatisfaction of an aspect of a relationship in France?”
All couples that last, do that, of course.
But many couples accept to continue even though sexual activity is low, and the persons in the couple have come to terms with it, there’s not the huge flame there used to be anymore, one of the partners doesn’t feel attracted to having sex anymore or only so rarely, even though they treasure their couple, what they’re building together, and still love each other. In these cases, some of the persons in those low sexual activity couple will seek occasionally partners outside, in secrecy, and that’ll allow them to retain their feeling of still being virile (what would be the female equivalent for this word ? If there’d be one ?)
From our continent, actually, the hypocritical-looking ones would be the Northern-Americans, who have the moral emotivity and bravado of daring judge everyone by their own principles, and who believe only their “nothing is hidden” model works. Small lies are like the grease in an engine, it prevents the pieces from damaging from friction. Hide nothing, many more couples that would have been happy in the long term, are bound to explode in flight.
But, yeah, there are too many fundamental differences, you wouldn’t fit in a couple with a European person. Remember my illustration of the grease in an engine, if this idea is too alien to you and you only accept an engine that works because all the pieces are perfect and shiny, yeah, don’t bother. You’d end up hurt at some point and it would be a sad waste.
“Hide nothing, many more couples that would have been happy in the long term, are bound to explode in flight.”
See I view it as false happiness. You are obviously not happy with an aspect of the relationship. Where you guys just seek outside, we seek to fix it.
Using your engine, instead of just putting more grease to cover it, we look to fix the part.
From my end, to me, it just seems like you don’t actually care about your partner. You want all the aspects that benefit you from said person(Affection, cooking, so on), but in the end, you don’t care. I couldn’t fathom lying to my fiance. Your cultural ideal about relationships makes all the relationships seem so fake to me.
Let’s look at the unhappy couple. Say one partner isn’t as interested in sex with the other. Wouldn’t it be fair to say the other partner feels the same at that point? In your culture, you both assume the other will see to cheat outside the relationship
What it looks like is you guys are a polyamorous society, you just don’t talk about it.
The sources I read(not FOX, btw, British and Dutch articles about people from the Anglo world dating Gallic and what to expect) stated that cheating is expected by pretty much everyone, and you just ignore it. If both people are cheating, why ignore it and not accept that you are both poly? The articles stated that people of mainland Europe, and especially the Gallics do not really discuss, problems or issues, it is best to hide them, which is where you get lying, lack of consent,etc. being acceptable. It isn’t in the Anglo(I say that because it wasn’t just North America, but the UK, Australia, and New Zealand people who were shocked by this cultural outlook to relationships). In our culture, respect and love means being truthful and honest. If there is a problem, you do what you can to fix it together as a team.
“Hide nothing, many more couples that would have been happy in the long term, are bound to explode in flight.”
I want to come back to this. Okay, so you have a relationship of lies. Sure on the surface it is happy, but is it a real relationship? Yes, the Anglo world has a higher divorce rate, that is because unhappy people leave and then find a new partner that makes them happy. What you suggest is you are unhappy some of the time, so I will peace together happiness from others to maintain a mirage. That is what is so foreign to me.
What happens if your partner does find out about you cheating? Is it such a small, insignificant thing anymore? If they do get upset and it burns the relationship, they feel hurt because you do not view them as good anymore, etc. do you not see how from my point of view, it wasn’t small minor thing? It was disguised as such in the mind of the cheater, but since they screwed up, it is now a major issue.
Are diseases not an issue in France? Adultery here happens mostly when both partners are still active, you said it does not there? It is actually the most common way people find out about a cheating partner. They get a STI.
I just want to know. Is a partner given a chance to remedy the dissatisfaction of the other partner first? Do you talk about desires, needs, etc. or do you guys just go straight to cheating the moment you are unsatisfied?
Like I said, out cultures are vastly different, but I would have never got far in such a relationship with a French women to even get cheated on, as my fiance and I are 100% open communications between us. No lies, and that just isn’t a part of your culture.
Watnoa, your comments are extremely antagonistic and discriminatory. You are generalizing an entire population based on the thoughts of a few.
I just want to sort of apologize to you Oliver. I did some cultural research and found Gallic and Anglo cultures are quite different. I still don’t agree with the ideals of your culture, but I was harsh to judge you personally.
I found that lying is an integral part of your relationships and it is actually considered bad to be 100% truthful to each other in France. It is also expected everyone will cheat. You guys are essentially poly, you just don’t want to be open about it.
To me and others here, trust and honesty are the most essential part of a relationship, and if you don’t have them, you don’t have a good relationship. In France, you guys value different aspects, and that is fine, just the way the world is.
I could definitely never be in a relationship with a Gallic person, and I do disagree with those ideologies, but I do apologize for judging you as I did.
Dude, Fox News is not a reliable source of information xD
Also, I don’t think you’re making it intentionally, but you have been heavily insulting me, calling me a serial liar, a cheater and an hypocrite, from birth.
Basically, strip away the whole “everyone does it because it is cultural” and replace it “we understand that some do it and comfortable lies are sometimes preferable to destructive truths, we also understand life is so chaotic, so complex, individual circumstances are so unique, there is no absolute rule that would allow to judge everyone by the same principles on this topic”.
I get both sides of the discussion. I understand Watnoa’s anger due to his own experience, although attacking you like that and making cultural and racial assumptions based on “articles” was rather over the top. I’m rather shocked by everything he said. I think it’s great that you stayed calm. I actually agree with you, Oliver. There should never be a ‘pure’ judgement of any circumstance, as there is always more than one side to each story.
Another interesting thing to note is, that the views of everyone here are very much influenced by western culture. I can assure you that in most Asian countries, most marriages are not done out of love. The perfect world of marrying someone out of love, simply does not exist for most of the world. Marriages are done for various reasons. Current and future livelihood are just a few of the reasons for marriage.
I understand that infidelity is such a huge matter for some people. But compared to the larger problems such as making sure you and your children have something to eat for the day or cloths to wear, infidelity seems like a first world problem. If this sounds extreme, let me remind you that 70% of humanity lives on less than 10 dollars per day. Some women whore themselves out to provide for their babies. I don’t think that love has much to do with that (love for their child maybe). Some partners cannot generate enough income to sustain themselves, less their children. Sometimes they are dependent on the other partner, the one who is generating income. So the choice between turning a blind eye or walking out of that relationship and possibly end up living in the gutter, is not an easy one to make.
I think this may be a cultural thing. Is divorce not something you guys do in France? What about open relationships? A lot of people are practising polyamory now, and that defeats all the issues you list.
I agree, being in a sexless relationship will build resent, so why stay with that person? If you are at that point, you are both at the point where you are tired of each other and want something else, why not end it?
Or why not discuss opening up the relationship? If you are at the point you describe, where it has turned sexless and resentful, wouldn’t both parties be open to the ideal of getting sex on the side? Or are things like sexual satisfaction something couples in France don’t discuss with each other? You say why not have sex on the side in a sexless relationship, wouldn’t your partner be feeling the same, so why not have a mature, honest discussion with each other about your needs and desires and what you can do to sate them. Honestly, your approach is very childish and immature, and not something an adult would do if they were in a relationship with good communication.
Either way, cheating takes away one very important aspect of person-person interactions. Consent. By cheating, you are not giving your partner consent to accept that relationship, and risks(Pregnancy or disease) or the option to end it.
Unless, are you a narcissist? Is it okay for you to be with others, but not your partner? That is very common in the poly community(Of which I have been a part of for a decade) and one of our biggest problems. People who want the option of being with others, but don’t want their partner to have the same.
Whichever the reason, there are other options than cheating, and your mantra about it being the only real life way to deal with a sexless relationship is quite disappointing, and what narcissist are usually guilty of in not wanting their partner to be with others.
If you feel your relationship is getting stale, talk with your partner like an adult about it and options, don’t go behind their backs like a child.
I replied above
Side note: please avoid stupid-sounding phrases letting subtly imply that you are thinking I want to justify myself. Unless I didn’t properly understood your words – and then: sorry! – you’re not making yourself look good.
wow wow wowwww
first:
what Oliver said is that he understood it, not that he did it.
that 2 different things.
second:
you include entire cultures and nations in your comment from one misunderstanding and one book you’ve read.
Tird:
what he tells you is that you can have a really fulfilling relationship with someone (both way) and you don’t want to destruct it. So instead of blowing it appart you find a solution. in that case cheating(moraly good or not, we don’t juge that, we say we understand)
I’m against cheating but as Oliver said :
” we also understand life is so chaotic, so complex, individual circumstances are so unique, there is no absolute rule that would allow to judge everyone by the same principles on this topic”.
that mean that sometime it is bad because done for bad reasons by a bad person and some time you have to now all the reasons and the person to understand.
Life in general is gray, not black and white
PS one: in France we use condom so we don’t have problems with pregnancy or STI.
PS two: I’m French, married and not cheating :).
It was actually numerous articles about dating French people. Try using English search engines about dating French, and you will see what I mean. Oliver’s acceptance of infidelity, even if he doesn’t practise it, is something accepted by the people of France in general, or so English sources would have you believe.
“what he tells you is that you can have a really fulfilling relationship with someone (both way) and you don’t want to destruct it. So instead of blowing it appart you find a solution. in that case cheating(moraly good or not, we don’t juge that, we say we understand)”
And see I disagree with this ideal. To me, from my background, it shows true selfishness on your part. A marriage is supposed to be about equality and respect, and cheating shows a lack of both. Have a problem with your sex life? Work together to find a problem. Many times, people find that extramarital relationships are needed, but consent was given by the partner.
That is why the outlook Oliver had was upsetting. Cheating takes away respect, equality, and consent. To me, it makes it seem as though you don’t actually care about the other person, just what they can do for you. A false reality, if you will. You don’t respect them as an equal being or partner, just whatever gratuity they give you.
It is ultimately their lives, and I won’t interfere, but on a discussion forums(even if a porn site lol), I will show that I don’t approve of such an outlook. Just my opinion.
Well, we’ll never agree, but I’m glad we had that discussion.
At least now, we know why we can’t agree, and we understand how the other is thinking. Not approving, but understanding that it’s a possibility and is legitimate elsewhere, it’s already something big I believe
Ok, so tell me:
what if I’m madly in love with my partner, who is the only person I can ever conceive sharing my life with. What if I’ve never loved anyone but that person and have been blessed in return by her love. What if, inspite of that, I feel attracted to other women. Not because I can’t have sex with my partner, or because there is no spark anymore or whatever but just because, well, there are many attractive ladies out there. And what if I could sleep with some of them if I wanted to.
What if I really want to fuck other girls, not love them, not divorce my partner and remarry them, just fuck them, simple basic desire. Not because I want better sex but because I want to see “that beautiful redhead” moaning as I touch her, or hear “that gorgeous blonde” telling me she wants me.
And let’s consider that I’m not getting younger and more attractive as years go by. That some day not even a blind lonely woman will be able to feel genuine desire towards me. And that when it will be too late I will probably regret not taking advantage of the occasions life put in front of me when I was younger. What if resisiting to cheat on my partner is making me frustrated and sad.
But remember, I don’t want to break up with her because she is the best thing that ever happended to me and the reason why the universe was created in the first place. And I don’t want to live a life without love and there is no love without her.
What if she is a jealous woman and can not even tolerate the idea of an open relationship. How would you fix that? What kind of adult conversation do you think could solve that? What options can YOU imagine?
I guess this all boils down to a person’s ability to commit…
Whoa, Hentai Enishi, That takes you back.
Wow, there’s one I never thought I’d see finished, thanks Olivier
Oh, nice!
Actually the first three chapters where translated a long time ago. I would even dare to say, that this story inspired other ero-mangaka. Oldschool? Well, yes, Morris draws oldschool.
I like the variety. Nice to see the whole manga translated.
Woah :O
Good work Oliver-san!!