Two polls, on masturbating to vanilla, and on cheating in real life… Voice yourselves, guys! :)

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By Oliver (AKA the Admin) on 31 comments
in Categories: Just Talking, Polls

Hey everyone :)

Past discussions, in the comments of Hentairules, and elsewhere, have made me curious. Could I ask you how you feel on those two topics ?

  • Vanilla & masturbation.
    If you’re a HUGE vanilla hentai lover, does it actually get in the way of fapping, or can you happily enjoy the story, and pleasure yourself ?
  • Cheating, in real life.
    I can’t tell if it’s 1% of the people, or like 30%, no clue at all.
    I know the theme is both extremely hated (in terms of negative comments, including my own) and popular (in terms of number of downloads.) I’m simply curious, how is it in real life, do we have a significant proportion of people who cheat in their couple ? I know there’s also a cultural difference, as in the northern-American continent this is seen as morally horrible, while we are more, shall we say, “understanding” in several other continents. But all in all, I wonder, how most people live with it. Worry not, I’m not going to collate poll answers with IP data, lol.

Question for the people who LOVE vanilla: can you masturbate to a manga with excellent, heart-melting vanilla ?

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For those of you who are in a "strong" relationship with someone. Are you OK with cheating, or not ?

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papaslammer
papaslammer
7 years ago

You need to define ‘cheating’. Some people consider kissing another to be cheating, some don’t, and some say it depends on the kind of kiss. Some people think that it’s cheating if you are masturbating to a picture of another woman/man because you aren’t being faithful to that person. Some really crazy people think that if you even think about or picture having sex with somebody besides your partner, then you are cheating.

And then there is the idea of what your ‘strong’ relationship is like. Some people can have open relationships and still be strong, so they can sleep with others without cheating. So it sounds like the “understanding” in several other continents” aren’t actually cheating because they are allowing it. Meaning you have to actually be breaking the rules/code/contract/agreement to be cheating.

tl;dr – You’re being way too vague in your wording. Your data will not accurately reflect what you are asking.

Wayne
Wayne
7 years ago
Reply to  papaslammer

Oliver can probably give a better view, since it was he and another discussing it, but according to him in France cheating is viewed as something that isn’t a relationship killer, but it is not in the same view as an open relationship, like what we see in Anglo countries. You don’t talk about it. don’t look for it, just ignore Oliver also said that couples are not honesty and open with each other.

So its like everyone knows everyone else is cheating, but you just ignore and don’t talk about it. Like Fight Club

Personally, I am not down for cheating. One night of fun that may ruin a good relationship? Not worth it.

If you are in an unsatisfied relationship, talk about it, or move on.

kokotheorm
kokotheorm
7 years ago
Reply to  Wayne

It’s a bit more complicated than that , first it depend on the relationship.. The closest to what you are talking about exist , it’s when either men or women cheat in a marriage and the other person don’t make a big deal out of it . It’s usually happen in long term relationship , when people don’t really love each other but care enough , for various reason , about the relationship to turn a blind eyes on it .
There is also the more traditional approach of people who consider marriage a sacred , social contract and divorcing would be much more of a sin than cheating (roll eyes).
As a whole Cheating is still regarded badly in France but it’s indeed not a deal breaker it depend very much on the person and their relationship and exactly what kind of cheating is involved .
One’s thing that’s lacking to the poll , if you didn’t cheat on your partner but where the one the partner cheated with . Having been in that kind of position , I must say it’s not always about betraying feeling or exploiting emotional distress . Sometime thing just happen with the best of intention nobody meaning to hurt anybody .

Wayne
Wayne
7 years ago
Reply to  kokotheorm

That is a big difference, and one Oliver did pull up in that discussion a while back. Keeping the marriage together no matter what was seen as a higher goal, and divorce was bad.

In the Anglo world, it is viewed as why stay together in a marriage that isn’t healthy, when you can find someone that makes you happier.

As for the last part, that just shows piss poor self control. Yeah, I know what you are saying, you didn’t intend to hurt anyone, it just happened, that just shows very poor self control, which granted, the majority of all people lack.

Like I said, why risk a good relationship for a one time occurrence?

kokotheorm
kokotheorm
7 years ago
Reply to  Wayne

Let me be clearer , I have never cheated nor plan on cheating , but I have been the other guy “used” by the cheater . We were friend for a long time, really close and she wasn’t happy with her partner at the time . Now cheating as a casual term, meaning having sex with another partner without the approbation of your current partner is shitty, but it cover a broad spectrum of situation and as a rule I don’t judge people .

Duece
Duece
7 years ago
Reply to  kokotheorm

I judge cheaters, not for any pious or religious reasons, I don’t believe, but because it is a betrayal, even if it didn’t start that was specifically, of your partner.

You are supposed to care about your partner more than anyone else in the world, sans your kids, and to do that to them(And then continue affairs) just shows me you are selfish and also shows me I can’t trust you as a person(Not you, I mean cheaters).

So, want to cheat? Sure, just know that I will never rely on you or trust you, because if you can betray and hurt the person you care about most, I am literally nothing to you.

zharg
zharg
7 years ago
Reply to  papaslammer

Since cheating is a personal construct, it doesnt matter. Would you cheat according to your notion of cheating?

My notion of cheating is one, but i know that my wife thinks diferently from me, so I take her views on cheating into consideration…

hemmer
hemmer
7 years ago

I hate when people say “in Europe”. because France has a whole different mentality than say Germany for example.

Personally I live in Austria and we’re not that cool with the topic of cheating.

Duece
Duece
7 years ago
Reply to  hemmer

I had a Dutch friend tell me he was kinda shocked by how open and accepted cheating was when he lived in France for five years. He said, sure it happens in the Netherlands, but it isn’t something society accepts as a part of life and are cool about it.

Zharg
Zharg
7 years ago

I’m having a hard time understanding the 1st question. You mean to say that there are people who read vanilla hentai, love that genre and can’t get pleasure out of masturbating to it?

Personally I find vanilla boring. To me hentai needs a little perversion to it. Tearly eyes and promisses of eternal love are kinda meh to masturbate to, even if the drawings are exceptional. That doesn’t mean gutt wrenching netorare, but some perversion…

Murdeer
Murdeer
7 years ago
Reply to  Zharg

Same for me.
Back then I really hate all these netorare and super perverted mangas, but slowly I just got bored of vanila stuffs.
I still hate netorare, but I fap to it.

KCZ117
7 years ago

It’s not like you can’t masturbate to it, it’s just those moments that just get to you, like the one with the robot wife who shuts herself down when her husband passes away. I don’t remember the hentai, but seriously it’s moments like that just…idk…too difficult to put into words.

Kurzwaltz.Messer
Kurzwaltz.Messer
7 years ago
Reply to  KCZ117

That’s “Believe Machine” by Ozaken. And yeah, I found it very hard to fap to that particular story.

pyrolobus fumarii
pyrolobus fumarii
7 years ago
Reply to  KCZ117

Believe Machine by… Ozaken i believe.

oldbrokenhands
oldbrokenhands
7 years ago

I can fap to some vanilla hentai because it has some the of the best drawn sex positions. A woman on her belly in a rear-entry position. Doggie-style with the girl in total surrender and comfort.

Sometimes I actually read the damn things, and the sweet buildup makes for a more satisfying fap.

Anyway, that’s my two cents.

pyrolobus fumarii
pyrolobus fumarii
7 years ago

Cheating basedly depended on what you believe in. Will you believe, oliver?

pyrolobus fumarii
pyrolobus fumarii
7 years ago

naturally no one will be happy when they got cheated, naturally.

HentaiAddict
7 years ago

Vanilla hentai isn’t my favorite, go-to, gotta read type. But if it’s well drawn, and the sex scenes are well done then I’ll happily fap to it.

As for cheating, same as vanilla hentai – I can fap to it if it’s well drawn / good scenes. But IRL infidelity is the reason I divorced my 1st wife. She cheated. I’ll never cheat on, put up with being cheated on, or be ‘the other guy’ someone cheats with.

Jake
Jake
7 years ago

At first I was a man who claims myself as a man who won’t ever cheat. But, many things happened within my 2-years relationship, so many factors and reasons combined with circumstances that pushes me cheating with my girlfriend’s best friend.
Right after she (my gf’s bestfriend) gone overseas for a year, she came back and more prettier than before. After she heard the story about my relationship, she become more concerned.. that’s where my affair happens.. just like hentai stories, first, sex follows ..for a straight three days.. and then we often met more frequently secretly from my gf

Duece
Duece
7 years ago
Reply to  Jake

Can I ask, why not end the relationship with your girlfriend and get with her friend, if you feel like you enjoy being with her more?

Or is it you want both, and I assume don’t want them to get with someone, so you won’t go for an open relationship?

LAROP
LAROP
7 years ago

As someone who was cheated on, and who found out their child was not biologically theirs, I will never cheat. When I found out about the betrayal, that loss of trust, that loss of friendship, it was devastating. I felt like I wasn’t even a man. I also found out that a person I thought was my friend, as they were the one my wife was cheating on. Now I am so damaged and riddled with distrust for everyone, I will never get into a relationship again and will die alone. Wouldn’t ever wish anyone to have to go through that, so no cheating for me.

Kaze
Kaze
7 years ago

I’ve always found infidelity to be morally wrong (if perhaps understandable, depending on the situation), but I also have a confession to make: I like cheating in hentai almost as much as vanilla.

It’s really hard to explain. The closest it comes is to a love-hate relationship. It’s hot, and has a sort of forbidden flavor, but at the same time, it also hurts the part of me that just got engaged. It helps that I’ve gotten used to it – the first netori hentai I ever saw was Educating a New Wife and that left me depressed for a few days, but now I don’t bat an eyelash at most of it.

In short, I enjoy both, but vanilla hentai is less complicated and easier to like, at least for me.

Blargh
Blargh
7 years ago

I suspect hentai women are so weak against Cheating and NTR because the males are all secretly genetically modified humans that repeatedly ejaculate some kind of dissolved liquid heroin solution. It’s the only explanation that makes sense.

I swear – you stick in ONE penis and everyone loses their minds. Why cheat in real life when you can’t even bump uglies with some drug-secreting set of genitals?

If this were possible it wouldn’t even matter if my adulterous partner was fat and ugly or even, Romney forbid, a Cowboys fan. If I ever cheated I would want to know for sure that her vagina regularly produces some class of high-grade industrial amphetamines – or even better, Krokodil. Is this too much to ask for?

Zharg
Zharg
7 years ago
Reply to  Blargh

You had me laughing out loud… I think it just plays into the fantasy of the reader that no matter how ugly they are, they are blessed with a mind numbing dick that can make even a faithful housewife lose her way…

Billy Mays
Billy Mays
7 years ago

In real life, i’m 100% against cheating.

But when it comes to doujins, i only like it when it’s done right. I.e, if it’s a woman with a distant husband that is never home etc, i wouldn’t mind her shagging someone she likes. Or if a partner’s significant other is treating them like shit but they remain in a relationship, falling for the sunk cost fallacy. If they look at their relationship with rose-tinted glasses, ignoring the misdeeds of their partner. i.e either the husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend cheating on their partner and treating them like shit. In those cases, the person being cheated on deserves to find solace in someone else that he/she likes.

But if it’s something which involves blackmail, drugs or rape then i’m pretty much 100% against it.

SomaHeir
SomaHeir
7 years ago
Reply to  Billy Mays

Have the same thing :)

I’m 200% against cheating. Never cheated and will never will.

Though i don’t mind reading NTR works, just for the art!

SomaHeir
SomaHeir
7 years ago

I love vanilla works, especially if the women are young adults or even highschool.

I’m always against cheating. 200%. What’s the point of getting into a relationship to someone if you’re just going to find another person in the middle of it? It’s always a commitment. And if you can’t commit, then there’s no reason to be in it in the first place.